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Postby davidmarver » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:10 am

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OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS RFg%
Cameron 113 5.70 13-1 +18.1%
Roberts 114 5.08 23-12 +1.9%

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS
Roberts 114 5.08 23-12
Klesko 112 5.18 3-4

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS RFg%
Castilla 94 4.27 4-2 +6.3%
Burroughs 71 3.13 4-0 +9.6%

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS DEFCS%
Piazza 103 5.13 0-0 13.7%
Hernandez 109 5.21 1-0 25.7%

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS RFg%
Klesko 112 5.18 3-4 +5.3%
Nevin 79 3.74 3-0 +2.8%
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Those don't include Adrian Gonzalez or Ben Johnson's numbers since they don't have enough MLB stats to mean anything, yet are huge prospects. Gonzalez was a #1 pick and Johnson was the Padres #1 prospect in 2005 as rated by scout.com.

The only position in which the Padres visually downgraded was at catcher, but the price differential (save four million per season) far exceeds the miniscule offensive difference between Piazza and Hernandez.

Loretta/Barfield cannot be compared, but bringing up a 22 year old who ripped up AAA last season (five tool player) to replace a veteran with injury problems and a dead bat is A okay with me.

Rip on the Padres all you want, but they statistically improved this past season, before you even add in the effect of the rookies and of Khalil Greene's progression.
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Postby depotvendor » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:06 am

Has anybody figured out why Petco is death for hitters? The one thing that I didnt like the Pads doing last year was trading Germano for Randa. Big time drop in talent there.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:31 am

davidmarver wrote:<pre>
OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS RFg%
Cameron 113 5.70 13-1 +18.1%
Roberts 114 5.08 23-12 +1.9%

Offensively I'd say this is a wash.

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS
Roberts 114 5.08 23-12
Klesko 112 5.18 3-4

Wash

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS RFg%
Castilla 94 4.27 4-2 +6.3%
Burroughs 71 3.13 4-0 +9.6%

Definite improvement

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS DEFCS%
Piazza 103 5.13 0-0 13.7%
Hernandez 109 5.21 1-0 25.7%

Loss

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS RFg%
Klesko 112 5.18 3-4 +5.3%
Nevin 79 3.74 3-0 +2.8%

Improvement
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The offense looks a little better but I don't see a huge difference. Keeping everyone healthy would be the best improvement.
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Postby wrveres » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:57 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
davidmarver wrote:<pre>
OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS RFg%
Cameron 113 5.70 13-1 +18.1%
Roberts 114 5.08 23-12 +1.9%

Offensively I'd say this is a wash.

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS
Roberts 114 5.08 23-12
Klesko 112 5.18 3-4

Wash

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS RFg%
Castilla 94 4.27 4-2 +6.3%
Burroughs 71 3.13 4-0 +9.6%

Definite improvement

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS DEFCS%
Piazza 103 5.13 0-0 13.7%
Hernandez 109 5.21 1-0 25.7%

Loss

OPS+ RC/27 SB-CS RFg%
Klesko 112 5.18 3-4 +5.3%
Nevin 79 3.74 3-0 +2.8%

Improvement
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The offense looks a little better but I don't see a huge difference. Keeping everyone healthy would be the best improvement.


correct .. don't forget the natural progression for Greene.
You don't need to win 95 to win this division either.

So a slighty better offense, a better defense in center and on the corners, and by all accounts a deeper, quality pitching staff, we will be hanging a pennant around our shoulders again in 2006. :-)

Bring on the Cardinals!!
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:21 pm

wrveres wrote:correct .. don't forget the natural progression for Greene.
You don't need to win 95 to win this division either.

So a slighty better offense, a better defense in center and on the corners, and by all accounts a deeper, quality pitching staff, we will be hanging a pennant around our shoulders again in 2006. :-)
I agree, all-around the Pads look better. Health seems the most important thing to me. They have some older guys and hopefully Greene can avoid a trip to the DL this year.

And I wouldn't hang that pennant yet. If SF has a healthy Bonds, Schmidt and Benitez they will be trouble. Same with LA. It's not like half their team can go on the DL again, can it? I guess with Drew and Nomar anything is possible. :-)

wrveres wrote:Bring on the Cardinals!!

That worked out well last year. :-D
SOTD let you off easy.
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Postby wrveres » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:42 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:And I wouldn't hang that pennant yet. If SF has a healthy Bonds, Schmidt and Benitez they will be trouble. Same with LA. It's not like half their team can go on the DL again, can it? I guess with Drew and Nomar anything is possible. :-)


and Barry is Bone on Bone .. Benitez is hurt already .. a 50 year old Finley and Alou are the replacements .. oh and not lets forget DL Durham at the top of the order.

oh and niether LA, SF, or ARZ have the pitching depth we do ...


SDP = 2006 NL West Pennant baby :-°
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Postby wrveres » Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:09 pm

and don't forget ..

Petco is across the street form the Pacific Ocean.
games start a 7:05 after that heavy marine layer rolls in every night.

it used to be bad at 'the Q' a few miles inland, but it is even worse when you are across the street form an ocean
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Postby thatohiosportsfan » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:54 am

...has not improved...
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For those of you who picked the Reds to be last in the central (including espn and si)...i hate all of you, and you are wrong...
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