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Postby mweir145 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:25 pm

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5311794

It looks as if only $3M of the previously reported $5M will be on the Jays' payroll for the 2006 season. The rest of it looks to be split up between a $1.5M signing bonus, and a possible buyout of $500,000. In addition, there is also a $7.5 M mutual option for 2007. It's not been confirmed by Jays management yet, but Rosenthal's reports for the most part have been correct this off-season.

As a Jays fan, I like this deal as there is still a bit of a payroll cushion left, in case J.P. wants to upgrade RF or another position mid-season. There is also only $5M in guranteed cash for Molina, as the option is a mutual one. I still think they would have been better off using this money upgrading another position, but this signing should make the team considerably stronger, especially agaisnt lefties. Overall, it's a positive signing by the Jays.
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Postby Broncmet724 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:36 pm

Definitely think its an improvement over Zaun.
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Postby fatnub2339 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:37 pm

so what happens now? Will Molina serve as their every-day catcher?
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Postby slomo007 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:44 pm

Toronto seems to be spending money for the sake of spending money.

Is Molina really that much of an upgrade over Zaun?

Maybe they're paying for the leadership he provides to his pitching staff. :-?
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Postby Jester » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:46 pm

Molina - .295 last season with 15 homers and 69 RBI.

Zaun - .251 last season with 11 homers and 61 RBI.

I know Molina is an upgrade defensively as well - but 5 mil? Everyone talks about how crap Zaun is - but as a guy who watched almost every game last year, he is the heart and soul.

I don't know if I fully am sold on this deal. Molina has gained a bunch of weight...this one just tastes bad.
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Postby Playoffbound » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:48 pm

Does this mean they will deal Zaun, Phillips or Q? And if so who might be interested?
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Postby Havok1517 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:50 pm

It somebody wants an upgrade at C reserve I'd take a chance on Zaun, Phillips, & Q. Also, Phillips could get cut.
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Postby Another Blown Save » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:05 pm

fatnub2339 wrote:so what happens now? Will Molina serve as their every-day catcher?
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Postby xeifrank » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:09 pm

it's a moderate upgrade, and if this signing means that Jason Phillips never steps into a batters box or squats behind the plate, it's a great signing. :)
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Re: Report: Jays sign Bengie Molina

Postby Wozzyck » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:31 pm

mweir145 wrote:It looks as if only $3M of the previously reported $5M will be on the Jays' payroll for the 2006 season. The rest of it looks to be split up between a $1.5M signing bonus, and a possible buyout of $500,000.


The $1.5 million dollars still counts for luxury tax purposes. If the option is declined, it all counts for 2006; otherwise, I believe it's split evenly between 2006 and 2007.

Playoffbound wrote:Does this mean they will deal Zaun, Phillips or Q? And if so who might be interested?


I imagine Molina/Zaun will share the catching duties (Molina seeing more of that time presumably). Phillips has hardly any trade value, and, since he was only signed to a minor league deal, he's more likely to just be released. And since Molina and Zaun are signed only for the short-term, I would imagine that they hang onto the 24-year-old Quiroz.

This signing does give the Jays some depth, but Molina really isn't that much of an upgrade over Zaun (unless you for some reason expect drastic changes in recent performance). Here's the WARP/EqA comparison the past couple of years:

2005: Molina (3.5 WARP .268 EqA) vs. Zaun (3.3 WARP .254 EqA)
2004: Molina (2.0 WARP .244 EqA) vs. Zaun (2.4 WARP .258 EqA)

Molina has performed well against lefties (particularly last year, though not every season), however given the fact that Zaun doesn't have a noticeable platoon split to exploit, the gains here don't seem particularly great (in light of the cost).

**Edit** I just saw on Rotoworld that Quiroz is out of options, so he may well be traded. I would imagine that some team (Colorado and Florida leap to mind as possibilities) would give him a roster spot.
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