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Postby williesd » Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:34 pm

These are some players going into the last year of a contract..Some of these guys will play extra hard for the $$$$
Which ones do you guys think will come up big..

Pitchers.

Jose Contreras
Jason Schmidt
Kelvim Escobar
Kip Wells
Jason Marquis
Vicente Padilla
Adam Eaton
Ted Lilly
Andy Pettitte
Mark Mulder
Barry Zito
Doug Davis
Danys Baez

C.

Rod Barajas
Javy Lopez

1B/DH

Phil Nevin
Shea Hillenbrand
Dmitri Young
Derrek Lee
Aubrey Huff
Nick Johnson

2B.

Mark Lorretta
Ray Durham
Ronnie Belliard
Jeff Kent
Alfonso Soriano

3B.

Melvin Mora
Pedro Feliz

SS.

Julio Lugo

OF.

Torii Hunter
Milton Bradley
Jose Guillen
Carlos Le
Cliff Floyd
Raul Ibanez
Dave Roberts


Here's the link to the source...

http://www.mlb4u.com/0607FA.html
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Postby Andy1234 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:01 pm

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Postby thedude » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:38 am

So the debate will begin agian
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Postby HOOTIE » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:52 am

thedude wrote:So the debate will begin agian



It's up to those who believe in the contract theory to provide evidence. I have never seen any, but would welcome any discoveries on the subject.
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Postby wrveres » Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:42 am

thedude wrote:So the debate will begin agian


do you know if Madison ever linked that thread to the FAQ?
If not it should be ...
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Postby wrveres » Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:43 am

HOOTIE wrote:It's up to those who believe in the contract theory to provide evidence. I have never seen any, but would welcome any discoveries on the subject.


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Postby Madison » Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:22 am

wrveres wrote:
thedude wrote:So the debate will begin agian


do you know if Madison ever linked that thread to the FAQ?
If not it should be ...
good solid work ;-D


Oh I definitely included the big old "Contract Year Myth" to the FAQ's. ;-D

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Postby Niffoc4 » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:24 am

As a whole I am sure the contract year hitting improvement is a myth... but what about health in a contract year? Is it coincidence that JD Drew actually played through pain in his contract year? That makes me think that if this will work for anyone it would Nick Johnson, who seems to always get hurt... a full year could rack up some bucks for him...
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Postby AcidRock23 » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:48 am

I have to agree it's a myth simply b/c what's missing from most 'gosh, [insert player] had a GREAT contract year and then look at what happened' analyses is the lists of guys who have contract years who end up being less than amazing, as well as the guys who have amazing years partially through a contract. DLee's year last year should end that argument just about by itself (although one could bring up the luck factors...)

I've been reading some baseball history books, to get into the spirit of things, and "The Thinking Fan's Guide To Baseball" which I finished up yesterday points out that the players are playing a game and that it's pretty much human nature to try to win. However much one wants to look @ stats, you have to consider that I think.

I did notice several guys on contenders (VMart, Konerko, Dye, Biggio stood out but there were others too...) who picked it up considerably in the second half last year though and played at levels above where they seemed to have played in the past, perhaps w/ their eyes on the post season? I am not really inclined to try to figure this out in an analytical way to PROVE anything (perhaps by looking at splits for playoff winning teams' players or something...) but think that there could be something there that could be of use on draft day. Has anybody ever run into anything like this? Maybe I should start a thread and pop some popcorn... :-? :-D
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:22 pm

I certainly think it's possible that some players might respond to contract year or pennant race pressure and raise their level of play. But, there are several things that may make this a moot point from a fantasy point of view.

First, just to get to this level of play, you had better be able to perform under intense pressure with intense concentration. So, it's unlikely that a perfomance bump is going to be large given the level of play.

Second, humans are difficult to predict. Some perform better in such situations. Some perform worse. If I have a bunch of guys in their contract year, how do I know which ones will rise to the challenge and which will not? Even if some guys can do it, it's almost impossible to predict who they will be ahead of time.
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