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Postby Nene » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:03 am

Derrick Turnbow, 46
A. Benitez, 44
Jose Valverde, 43
Francisco Cordero, 43
Mariano Rivera, 42
Francisco Rodriguez, 42
Gagne, 42
Nathan, 42
H. Street, 41
Wagner, 41
Gordon, 41
T. Hoffman, 40
Dempster, 40
Chad Cordero, 39
Lidge, 38
Isringhausen, 38
BJ Ryan, 38
M. Gonzalez, 38
Jenks, 37
Wickman, 36
Foulke, 35
Fuentes, 34
Guardado, 33
Ray, 33
Orvella, 33
Reitsma, 32
T. Jones, 31
MacDougal, 23
Weathers, 23
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Postby RAmst23 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:03 am

Do you have a link to this? Tried to find it on there page and couldn't locate it.
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Postby Nene » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:04 am

You have to be registered with them and download the file in excel format.
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Postby NZF » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:12 am

It's a crapshoot, I wouldn't give that list or any other save projection list more than a passing glance.
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Postby Nene » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:17 am

New Zealand Fan wrote:It's a crapshoot, I wouldn't give that list or any other save projection list more than a passing glance.


How do you rank the top 10 closers?
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Postby NZF » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:26 am

Nene wrote:
New Zealand Fan wrote:It's a crapshoot, I wouldn't give that list or any other save projection list more than a passing glance.


How do you rank the top 10 closers?



K's, Whip, ERA and then I factor in the hitting, SP and set up men of the team that they close for. You can't predict saves but there is certainly a correlation with good teams receiving more save opportunities than bad teams.
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Postby Surfs up » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:44 am

You can't say that the good teams get more save chances then the bad teams. I remember about three years ago Danny Kolb had 23-25 save chances in the second half with a terrible Brewers team. In fact I also seem to remember the Brewers lead the majors in save chances that year.Many times a game is lost because the bullpen doesn't hold the lead. I will give you I like the chances better with a winning team but its not a given they will get more chances.
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Postby Wyatt » Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:56 am

Not defending rotochamps but last year they adjusted their pitcher stats all throughout spring training. I seem to recall they go through each team after they initially list thier projections. It seems if you took an individual team & added up wins & losses it will come to more than 162 games. Can't remember how much tweaking was done but I know they did it.
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Postby swyck » Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:06 am

That list has 13 40 save guys, and the most in the last 3 years have been 10. In 03 there were only 12 players over 30! Its not way out of reach, but I expect less players to hit 40 then they have listed.

Still, any one of those listed at 40 could hit 40, and so could some of the 30s. The one thing that is for sure is that there will be surprises.

Not sure about Dempster though. This would put him in elite or near elite class depending on his other numbers. I hadn't considered him at that level, but with closers as long as you get the opportunities, and dont stink out the joint, you can rack up some big saves numbers.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:19 pm

New Zealand Fan wrote:
Nene wrote:
New Zealand Fan wrote:It's a crapshoot, I wouldn't give that list or any other save projection list more than a passing glance.


How do you rank the top 10 closers?



K's, Whip, ERA and then I factor in the hitting, SP and set up men of the team that they close for. You can't predict saves but there is certainly a correlation with good teams receiving more save opportunities than bad teams.


Pretty much agree with everything NZF says here. One thing he doesn't list that I really try to get a feel for is job security. What is the guy's contract? Does the manager have an itchy tigger finger? Any other challengers in the bullpen?
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