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Postby reynolds80 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:42 pm

I would love to be high on Indians studs Hafner, V-Mart, Peralta, and Sizemore just as much as the next guy, but that homerun and batting average suppressing park has me concerned.

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Postby BigLebowski » Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:45 pm

Didn't they play in the Jake last year? Shouldn't make a difference. :-? Unless they are moving the fences back a ton.

didn't read the articles.
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Postby HOOTIE » Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:59 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/cle/s ... =0&sort=25







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Hafner hit good there. Peralta and Martinez were better at home. Sizemore did bad at home.
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Postby kev921 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:11 pm

Did it seem to bother Jim Thome to play at the Jake?

It may surpress some numbers, but when you are in the AL Central, it should all even out
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Postby Minor League Skilz » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:16 pm

I wouldn't avoid any of those guys because of the ballpark.
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Postby reynolds80 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:26 pm

That's the strange thing. It doesn't seem to bother any of those guys, and it didn't seem to bother Thome. So the fact that it is the most favorable pitcher's park outside of Florida and San Diego really baffles me. Just wondering what you guys thought, appreciate the input...
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Postby sLim » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:43 pm

im more worried about rfk then the jake
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Postby RAmst23 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:48 pm

As a general rule of thumb, don't worry about the park effect unless the player is moving or changing parks.

The park effect has already been taken into consideration with these guys, since they played there last year, and they're numbers have already been affected by it.

As an example, it would be like projecting Clint Barmes to hit even better this year, because this year he's playing in Coors. Barmes numbers already reflect that half his games (or however many before he went down), are played at Coors.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:59 pm

last year wasn't the first year for Hafner or Vmart at the Jake and they had fine seasons in 2004 anyway. Peralta has both of them behind him so that should a lot. And Sizemore's a stud already ;-D .
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Postby TheYanks04 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:30 pm

I know what the numbers say, but I seem to remember the Jake was considered a hitter's park in the days of the md to late 90's tribe and Thome, Manny, Lofton, Justice, etc. I am not all convinced that the park is that much of a pitcher's paradise as much as it is that a lot of the AL Central opponents have pretty crummy hitting teams the past few years.
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