2005 DIPS stats?

[reiser]

I was looking for a decent list of 2005 DIPS stats...Futility Infielder used to have a decent list. ESPN has DIPS%, but I'm not quite sure how it works. Shouldn't some pitcher's DIPS be negative?

[GotowarMissAgnes]

I was looking for a decent list of 2005 DIPS stats...Futility Infielder used to have a decent list. ESPN has DIPS%, but I'm not quite sure how it works. Shouldn't some pitcher's DIPS be negative?

ESPN has each pitcher's DIPS ERA and the DIPS% is the (DIPS ERA)/Actual ERA. I think what you are looking for is the (DIPS ERA - Actual ERA), which is positive if the pitcher is likely to be worse in 2006 than in 2005 and negative if they are likely to be better. You can see the same thing with DIPS%, but a pitcher who is likely to be better will have a DIPS% that is less than 1.00, while a guy likely to be worse in 2006 will have a DIPS% greater than 1.

Another place to look at a similar number is on Hardball Tims where they give the pitcher's FIPS (fielding independent) pitching stats. Keep in mind, however, that these measures are intended to remove the effect of both fielding and "luck" on a pitcher's outcomes. In fantasy play, however, you want to remove the luck, but you might not want to remove the fielding. If the same fielders are coming back, the pitcher's outcomes might not change much.

[reiser]

ESPN has each pitcher's DIPS ERA and the DIPS% is the (DIPS ERA)/Actual ERA. I think what you are looking for is the (DIPS ERA - Actual ERA), which is positive if the pitcher is likely to be worse in 2006 than in 2005 and negative if they are likely to be better. You can see the same thing with DIPS%, but a pitcher who is likely to be better will have a DIPS% that is less than 1.00, while a guy likely to be worse in 2006 will have a DIPS% greater than 1. [/quote]

Thanks GTWMA-I like to use it as a final check on pitchers, so to speak, and actually just like to check out the extreme outliers. I guess I kind of preferred how futilty infielder presented the data.