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Postby Belle4Hall88 » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:32 am

ONCE AGAIN, HERE ARE MY RANKINGS:

1. New York Mets:
Reyes, SS
Beltran, CF
Wright, 3B
Delgado, 1B
Nady/Diaz, RF
Floyd, LF
Lo Duca, C
Matsui, 2B

2. Philadelphia Phillies:
Rollins, SS
Rowand, CF
Abreu, RF
Utley, 2B
Howard, 1B
Burrell, LF
Lieberthal, C
Nunez, 3B

3. Cincinatti Reds:
Freel, 2B
Lopez, SS
Griffey, CF
Pena, LF
Dunn, 1B
Kearns, RF
Valentien/LaRue, C
Encarnation, 3B

4. San Fransisco Giants:
Durham, 2B
Winn, CF
Bonds, LF
Alou, RF
Feliz, 3B
Niekro/Finley, 1B
Matheny, C
Vizuqell, SS

5. St.Louis Cardinals:
Eckstein, SS
Encarnation, RF
Pujols, 1B
Edmonds, CF
Rolen, 3B
Spivey, 2B
Taguchi, RF
Molina, C

6. Atlanta Braves:
Giles, 2B
Renteria, SS
Jones, 3B
Jones, CF
LaRoche, 1B
Francouer, RF
McCann, C
Lagernhans, LF

7. Houston Astros:
Biggio, 2B
Taveras, CF
Berkman, 1B
Ensberg, 3B
Wilson, LF
Lane, RF
Ausmus, C
Evrett, SS

8. Arizona Diamondbacks:
Cintron, SS
Hudson, 2B
Gonzalez, LF
Green, RF
Clark, 1B
Tracy, CF
Estrada, C
Counsell, 3B

9. Chicago Cubs:
Pierre, CF
Cedeno, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
Jones, RF
Barrett, C
Murton, LF
Walker/Hairston, 2B

10. Los Angeles Dodgers:
Furcal, SS
Lofton, CF
Kent, 2B
Drew, RF
Garciaparra, 1B
Mueller, 3B
Cruz, LF
Navarro, C

11. Milwaukee Brewers:
Clark, CF
Hall, SS
Fielder, 1B
Lee, LF
Geonkins, RF
Koskie, 3B
Miller, C
Weeks, 2B

12. Washington Nationals:
Church, CF
Zimmerman/Vidro, 3B
Soriano, 2B
Guillen, RF
Johnson, 1B
Sosa/Byrd, LF
Schneider, C

13. Pittsburgh Pirates:
Duffy, CF
Wilson, SS
Casey, 1B
Bay, LF
Burnitz, RF
Doumit, C
Randa, 3B
Castillo, 2B

14. Colorado Rockies:
Barmes, SS
Gonzalez, 2B
Helton, 1B
Holliday, LF
Atkins, 3B
Hawpe, RF
Sullivan/Pierda, CF
Closser, C

15. San Diego Padres:
Roberts, CF
Greene, SS
Cameron, RF
Giles, RF
Klesko, 1B
Castilla, 3B
Mirabelli, C
Barfield, 2B

16. Flordia Marlins:
Uggla, 2B
Ramirez, SS
Hermida, RF
Cabrera, LF
Jacobs, 1B
Willingham, C
Helms, 3B
Aguila, CF
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Postby Phatferd » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:39 am

The Dodgers are way too low, IMO.

I would move them up around the Cardinals. Probably just below them.
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Postby dyuen87 » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:47 am

Just at a glance I wouldn't put the Mets at the top just yet. They may end up there by the end of the year, but I'd take the Phils and Cards over them right now. And why are you ranking the Cards offense so low? Pujols/Rolen/Edmonds are probably the best 3/4/5 in the NL
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Postby Ender » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:12 am

Tiered list since I don't really believe in straight rankings before the season even starts.

Tier 1

Phillies
Reds

Tier 2

Cardinals (Tier 1 if Rolen and Spivey both stay healthy which is doubtful)
Brewers
Mets
Braves
Cubs
Rockies (just because of the park)

Tier 3
Giants (if bonds is fully healthy move to tier 2)
Dodgers
Arizona
Houston
Padres
Pirates

Tier 4
Nationals
Marlins
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Postby brandnew » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:19 am

Give the Cubs a little credit. They're a lot better than that awful Arizona lineup. I mean, they DO have 2 players that are better than the whole DBacks lineup combined.

I'd go

Phillies
Cards
Mets
Reds
Braves
Giants
Cubs
Astros
Dodgers
Brewers
Rockies
DBacks
Nationals
Padres
Marlins

Sorry, but the Mets hype is getting a bit much around here. They still have 2 sub .700 OPS's (one of which is their friggin' leadoff hitter), and another hitter who's pretty damn close to .700 (.714).

That's 3 out of 8 hitters with OPS's under .800, with 2 under .700. That will kill your offense.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:22 am

Phils
Cards
Stros
Braves
Mets (maybe, if Beltran manages to not be Matt Lawton in 05)
Dodgers/Cubs


Reds have too many health question marks in Gimpy and Kearns...And what Lopez and Freel decide to do this season? Potential is there though.

Giants...come on, it is Bonds (maybe), an aging Alou and a bunch of mediocrity at best. And what is there savg age, 38?
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Postby luckygehrig » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:32 am

I think my list would look like this:
1. Phillies
2. Cardinals
3. Braves
4. Mets
5. Dodgers (Assuming everyone stays healthy)
6. Giants
7. Reds
8. Rockies
9. Astros
10. D'Backs
11. Cubs (I don't really like anyone other than D Lee and A Ram, and I personally think D Lee is being overhyped)
12. Brewers
13. Pirates
14. Nationals (Playing 81 at RFK hurts everybody)
15. Padres (Playing 81 at Petco hurts too)
16. Marlins (I honestly don't really know much about any of these guys, so I automatically have to put them here)
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Postby Ender » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:10 am

As usual people missed the fact the Brewers scored the 6th most runs in the NL last year and they should be a good bit better this year. Funny how people miss this type of stuff with small market teams.
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Postby Steve-o » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:37 am

Ender wrote:Tiered list since I don't really believe in straight rankings before the season even starts.

Tier 1

Phillies
Reds

Tier 2

Cardinals (Tier 1 if Rolen and Spivey both stay healthy which is doubtful)
Brewers
Mets
Braves
Cubs
Rockies (just because of the park)

Tier 3
Giants (if bonds is fully healthy move to tier 2)
Dodgers
Arizona
Houston
Padres
Pirates

Tier 4
Nationals
Marlins


I like this one best.

The others really show me that the brew crew is being underrated offensively. Even understanding my homer status, they have one of the best young lineups in the game. Carlos Lee is going to fly under the radar again. BTW, the original poster was not even close to what their lineup will be. Actually, where did you get those lineups? A couple of them a incorrect...
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Postby brandnew » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:39 am

I love the Brew Crew's lineup, but Lee is overrated. .811 OPS is nothing special.
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