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Postby cordscords » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:06 pm

Didnt he have some kind of a shoulder problem last year? I think the M's said they didnt want him throwing his slider (people say it's his best pitch) that often, and they only want him to go 6/7 innings if they have a comfortable lead.
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Postby riverrat » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:27 pm

He had a bout of shoulder bursitis early in the year. Once healed, it didnt bother him thru the remainder of the year. At least it wasnt mentioned.
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Postby RAmst23 » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:32 pm

I can't see how this helps his value. At most, he's getting 190 IP this year. If you pick King Felix in a redraft league, ride him out for some starts then trade him. Most likely in the 2nd half, is pitching duties will be limited, no matter how good he is throwing.
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Postby Y`s Guy » Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:00 pm

Being a #5 hurts fantasy value everytime. You lose starts every time the team gets a day off, skipping the 5 hole. And after the 1st 2 weeks of the season, the spot in order has little relevance on who you might face, as every teams rotation schedule has been altered by week 3, due to off days. Fantasy wise, it's a negative.


I disagree big time when considering that this is Felix Hernandez. The Mariners babied him last season. In 2006 they will not.

The early-season skips for the prototypical SP just may occur for him but once May rolls around the M's will ride him like a stallion, I believe, because he is too good to ignore. I am sure he'll get 30 starts and that is a positve in fantasy, not a negative.

He ain't Juan Dominguez, Josh Towers or Esteban Loiaza (all mediocre at best #5s). He's the Mariners best prospect.
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Postby theclefe » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:19 pm

Y`s Guy wrote:
Being a #5 hurts fantasy value everytime. You lose starts every time the team gets a day off, skipping the 5 hole. And after the 1st 2 weeks of the season, the spot in order has little relevance on who you might face, as every teams rotation schedule has been altered by week 3, due to off days. Fantasy wise, it's a negative.


I disagree big time when considering that this is Felix Hernandez. The Mariners babied him last season. In 2006 they will not.

The early-season skips for the prototypical SP just may occur for him but once May rolls around the M's will ride him like a stallion, I believe, because he is too good to ignore. I am sure he'll get 30 starts and that is a positve in fantasy, not a negative.

He ain't Juan Dominguez, Josh Towers or Esteban Loiaza (all mediocre at best #5s). He's the Mariners best prospect.


When they have a .400 winning percentage come may, they better not be riding him like a stallion. I wouldn't mind if they did push him over the next few years, but it would be pointless until they can start winning more games.
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Postby riverrat » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:33 pm

RAmst23,
I like your idea about trading him during the 2nd half of the season on some unsuspecting manager. M's management is telling everybody they will be babying him...he's only 19yo.
A current thread, Mock Draft II completed ( http://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/foru ... p?t=166344 ) has him drafted in the 5th round. High for somebody who may not pitch many additional innings in the 2nd half?
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Postby bucksox » Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:40 pm

just because he is their 5th in rotation now, does not mean that that will ring true all season long. Players get hurt, rotations do get shuffled and IMO I think even though they might have him on a short leash this year, he doesn't wind up as the #5 at the end of this season.
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Postby HOOTIE » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:03 pm

theclefe wrote:When they have a .400 winning percentage come may, they better not be riding him like a stallion. I wouldn't mind if they did push him over the next few years, but it would be pointless until they can start winning more games.


While their April record could be under .500, this isn't a .400 team by any shape. They have Felix all year, added Washburn, Jojima, which are big upgrades, and Ichiro, Beltre likely have better years.
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Postby bucksox » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:06 pm

I totally agree. Seattle will have a much improved club this year. AL West should be very interesting. upgrades from SEA and TEX should at very least not make them whipping posts.
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