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Postby silverZ » Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:53 pm

here are my 2b rankings

Second Basemen:
Tier 1:
-Chase Utley

Tier 2:
-Chone Figgins
-Jeff Kent

Tier 3:
-Marcus Giles
-Jorge Cantu
-Alfonso Soriano

Tier 4:
-Robinson Cano
-Rickie Weeks
-Felipe Lopez
-Brian Roberts

Tier 5:
-Mark Loretta
-Placido Polanco
-Ryan Freel
-Ronnie Belliard
-Tadahito Iguchi

Tier 6:
-Craig Biggio
-Bill Hall
-Mark Ellis
-Luis Castillo
-Ray Durham
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Postby Simulacrum » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:01 pm

I'm thinking

1. Utley
2. Figgins/ Soriano (he may not be a National at the start of the season)
3) Kent
4) Cantu
5) Reyes

It'll be interesting to see how guys like Felipe Lopez, Freel, Cano, Barmes, and Junior Spivey do this season. I gotta admit I'm a little high on Spivey. I think he's a great fit for the Cards.
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Postby Ender » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:04 pm

His contact rate has been plummeting, he's better than Miles thats for sure but I have lost all faith in Spivey, which sucks because I was a big fan of his when he came over to Mil.
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Postby Brendo » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:15 pm

silverZ wrote:here are my 2b rankings

Second Basemen:
Tier 1:
-Chase Utley

Tier 2:
-Chone Figgins
-Jeff Kent

Tier 3:
-Marcus Giles
-Jorge Cantu
-Alfonso Soriano

Tier 4:
-Robinson Cano
-Rickie Weeks
-Felipe Lopez
-Brian Roberts

Tier 5:
-Mark Loretta
-Ryan Freel
-Ronnie Belliard
-Tadahito Iguchi

Tier 6:
-Placido Polanco
-Craig Biggio
-Bill Hall
-Mark Ellis
-Luis Castillo
-Ray Durham


i would take polonco over anyone in tier 4 and lower
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Postby Skippyoz » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:26 pm

silverZ wrote:here are my 2b rankings

Second Basemen:
Tier 1:
-Chase Utley

Tier 2:
-Chone Figgins
-Jeff Kent

Tier 3:
-Marcus Giles
-Jorge Cantu
-Alfonso Soriano

Tier 4:
-Robinson Cano
-Rickie Weeks
-Felipe Lopez
-Brian Roberts

Tier 5:
-Mark Loretta
-Ryan Freel
-Ronnie Belliard
-Tadahito Iguchi

Tier 6:
-Placido Polanco
-Craig Biggio
-Bill Hall
-Mark Ellis
-Luis Castillo
-Ray Durham


Why is Felipe Lopez on this list... isn't he a SS? Also, Figgins is slated to play 3B this year, so beware leagues which mandate you to draft based on pre-season expected starting positions (my big money league doesn't take into account the silly Yahoo! eligibility quirks). Finally, home or away, splits or no splits, I wouldn't put Soriano any lower than 2nd on this list. A 30-30 threat with potential for over 100 runs and 100 RBI every year for five years or so. Also, as good as Utley was last year, he still has only done it once! Just proceed with caution and remember that pitchers may adjust to him this coming year. I would feel shaky drafting him so high... as the top 2B.

My idea for 2B this year is to wait on the position, and draft a 20-20 threat in Weeks in the middle rounds. I'll swallow his low AVG if need be.

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Postby silverZ » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:27 pm

Lopez and Figgins have 2b eligibility in my leauge. Soriano is no longer a 30-30 threat if he stays with the nats, regardless of what he's done the past 5 years. I won't be taking him any earlier then round 5, and theres no way he'll still be around by then. I see him as a .265...20-30 AT BEST on the nats, with his runs/rbi taking a bad hit. RFK is where hitters go to die.

As for Utley, pitchers could adjust to him but its just as likely that he will adjust to pitching too. He should start to hit LHP better as he gains more experiance. He's the only 2B with .300/30/100/100/30 potential. I would go so far as to call him a safe bet for those stats as long as he doesnt get hurt. Or he could fall into a major sophmore slump and make me look like an idiot. Thats the beauty of baseball ;-)
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Re: My top 10 at 2b........

Postby RynMan » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:50 pm

bruuno2 wrote:Soriano


I stopped reading here.....sorry. !+)
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:20 pm

Skippyoz wrote:Why is Felipe Lopez on this list... isn't he a SS? Also, Figgins is slated to play 3B this year, so beware leagues which mandate you to draft based on pre-season expected starting positions (my big money league doesn't take into account the silly Yahoo! eligibility quirks). Finally, home or away, splits or no splits, I wouldn't put Soriano any lower than 2nd on this list. A 30-30 threat with potential for over 100 runs and 100 RBI every year for five years or so. Also, as good as Utley was last year, he still has only done it once! Just proceed with caution and remember that pitchers may adjust to him this coming year. I would feel shaky drafting him so high... as the top 2B.

My idea for 2B this year is to wait on the position, and draft a 20-20 threat in Weeks in the middle rounds. I'll swallow his low AVG if need be.

- Skip


Felipe qualifies for both, I think.

Soriano gets NOWHERE near 100/100 playing for the Nationals in RFK. No one on the Nats scored or knocked in more than 80 last year. And, he ain't going to hit 30 dingers. And, last year he could only hit .265 playing half his games in Arlington. This year. look for him to hit close to .250. He's no way close to the second best option at 2B.

And I can't see how Weeks falls that low in any league with non-short bus managers.
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Postby swyck » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:31 pm

Brendo wrote:
silverZ wrote:here are my 2b rankings

Second Basemen:
Tier 1:
-Chase Utley

Tier 2:
-Chone Figgins
-Jeff Kent

Tier 3:
-Marcus Giles
-Jorge Cantu
-Alfonso Soriano

Tier 4:
-Robinson Cano
-Rickie Weeks
-Felipe Lopez
-Brian Roberts

Tier 5:
-Mark Loretta
-Ryan Freel
-Ronnie Belliard
-Tadahito Iguchi

Tier 6:
-Placido Polanco
-Craig Biggio
-Bill Hall
-Mark Ellis
-Luis Castillo
-Ray Durham


i would take polonco over anyone in tier 4 and lower

I like this ranking, but I agree Polanco gets no love. He's been pretty steady.

IMO after the top 3 tiers you may as well wait on a 2B.
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Postby dannyolbb » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:39 pm

I think Mike Lowell needs to be considered for any list. Certainly in tier 5 or so.
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