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Postby go_jays_go » Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:44 pm

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go_jays_go wrote:Tony Fernandez or Roberto Alomar for the Jays I would say.


I think you gotta go with Delgado, who did far, far more than Fernandez in about the same playing time. Alomar was excellent for the Jays, but in only about half the playing time as either of the other two guys.


Is this based on statistics? Or overall best player for the team?

I mean I know Delgado put up monster stats, but both Fernandez and Alomar were faces of the Jays. It's not only their batting but their fielding too. Know what I'm saying? :*)
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Postby bigken117 » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:42 am

Nolan Ryan has to be the Angels choice...single season K record, and he's the club all time leader in K's, CG, shutouts...and while he may have walked more guys than Finley, he has a lower WHIP, a BAA of .198, lower OBA, he has an ERA 0.65 lower and gave up 139 less HR (more than half of Finley's total) in slightly less than 500 IP...

All Salmon leades the Angels in is HR and K's. If we're talking quality years of # of years, Jim Edmonds or Garrett Anderson could get the nod over Slamon as well.
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Postby Tavish » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:59 am

bigken117 wrote:Nolan Ryan has to be the Angels choice...single season K record, and he's the club all time leader in K's, CG, shutouts...and while he may have walked more guys than Finley, he has a lower WHIP, a BAA of .198, lower OBA, he has an ERA 0.65 lower and gave up 139 less HR (more than half of Finley's total) in slightly less than 500 IP...

All Salmon leades the Angels in is HR and K's. If we're talking quality years of # of years, Jim Edmonds or Garrett Anderson could get the nod over Slamon as well.


Salmon also leads in SLG%, OPS, Runs, RC, OPS+ and is 2nd in OBP, H, TB, Dbls, and RBIs. I definitely think Anderson could be argued for the top spot though.

Finley pitched in a much higher offensive era than Ryan so its not too surprising that his HR allowed, BAA, OBA, and ERA are much higher. Looking at league relative stats Finley's ERA+ is actually better than Ryan's.
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Postby Stejay » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:22 pm

Pretty good listapart from3 exceptions.Eddie Collins for the White Sox, Bob Feller for the Indians and Nolan Ryan for the Angels
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Postby Tavish » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:22 pm

Stejay wrote:Pretty good listapart from3 exceptions.Eddie Collins for the White Sox, Bob Feller for the Indians and Nolan Ryan for the Angels


Eddie Collins I could definitely see going for the ChiSox, his biggest drawback is that he played more years for the A's and had his best seasons there as well.

Feller would be major longshot in my eyes, not only having to get past Speaker but also Lajoie, Joe Jackson, and Earl Averill (or even the more recent guys like Manny or Thome). Feller being the only Indian "lifer" of the bunch is a bonus, but I don't think of him as being a great enough pitcher to get over the top.
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Postby wags6817 » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:23 pm

I would have to go with Bench for the Reds.
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Postby DK » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:56 pm

wags6817 wrote:I would have to go with Bench for the Reds.


I would actually go with Morgan for the Reds, rather than Robinson.
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Postby giants! » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:59 pm

Arizona- Luis Gonzales
Atlanta- Hank Aaron
Chicago- Ernie Banks
Cincinati- Johnny Bench
Colorado- Larry Walker
Florida- Gary Sheffield (couldnt come up with one)
Houston- Jeff Bagwell
Dodgers- Sandy Koufax (snyder, drysdale and others could go here)
Milwaukee- Robin Yount
New York Mets- Tom Seaver
Philadelphia- Mike Schmidt
Pittsburgh- Willie Stargell ( Honus Wagner a possibility as was Roberto Clemente)
St Louis- Bob Gibson (Stan Musial)
San Diego- Tony Gwynn
San Fransisco- Willie Mays
Washington- Vladimir Guererro

Baltimore- Cal Ripken Jr.
Boston- Ted Williams
Chicago White Sox- Frank Thomas
Cleveland- Bob Feller
Detroit- Allen Trammel
Kansas City- George Brett
Angels- Chuck Finley
Minnesota- Kirby Puckett
New York Yankees- Babe Ruth
Oakland- Rickey Henderson
Seattle- Ken Griffey Jr.
Tampa Bay- Fred McGriff
Texas- Juan Gonzales
Toronto- Joe Carter
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Postby Tavish » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:14 pm

Detroit- Allen Trammel


Thats like saying Luis Polonia was the best Yankee ever. :-D
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Postby giants! » Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:05 pm

I was writing it at 1 in the morning, Cobb and Greenberg are clearly better
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