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Postby shortsavage » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:00 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
shortsavage wrote:P.S. There is no way that Piazza ranks as a top 10 catcher next season. He wasn't close to that distinction last season and I think he will continue to decline. Top 10 catchers can't be 37.


He hit 19 homeruns in 398 at-bats last year. If he DHs, it will take immense stress off of his body. He'll be healthier and will be able to focus solely on hitting. Depending on what team he lands on, I think he could hit 25 homeruns with a .275 average or higher. RBIs and runs should be around 80-85 each also, maybe more depending on his protection.

To say he's not a top 10 catcher is insane IMO.


You're in for some huge dissapointment.
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Postby Surfs up » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:02 pm

Fatnub2339 You don't even have Barajas listed . You don't think 21hrs .254 and 60 rbi rated at least tier three? He hit 15 hrs in 2004. How many catchers on your three tiers hit more than 21 last year? How many had more than 60 rbi? How many hit higher than .254? How many are in a lineup that they don't bat 9th ? I rest my case.
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Postby shortsavage » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:06 pm

Surfs up wrote:Fatnub2339 You don't even have Barajas listed . You don't think 21hrs .254 and 60 rbi rated at least tier three? He hit 15 hrs in 2004. How many catchers on your three tiers hit more than 21 last year? How many had more than 60 rbi? How many hit higher than .254? How many are in a lineup that they don't bat 9th ? I rest my case.


I'm holding you to that }:-) !
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Postby wrveres » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:09 pm

Here is an average of everything I have come across as of Jan 12th.
It'll be interesting to take another reading at the beginning of Feburary and March

1 Martinez, Victor 1.27
2 Mauer, Joe 2.64
3 Varitek, Jason 4.70
4 Lopez, Javy 5.10
5 Hernandez, Ramon 5.33
6 Rodriguez, Ivan 6.00
7 Posada, Jorge 7.11
8 Barrett, Michael 7.38
9 Pierzynski, A.J. 10.13
10 Johjima, Kenji 10.20
11 Molina, Bengie 11.00
12 Kendall, Jason 11.17
13 Piazza, Mike 12.00
14 McCann, Brian 12.17
15 Lieberthal, Mike 13.33
16 Barajas, Rod 13.67
17 Buck, John 15.00
18 LaRue, Jason 16.00
19 LoDuca, Paul 16.00
20 Estrada, Johnny 17.00
21 Doumit, Ryan 22.00
22 Hall, Toby 22.00
23 Molina, Yadier 24.00
24 Schneider, Brian 24.50
25 Cota, Humberto 25.00
26 Olivo, Miguel 26.50
27 Torrealba, Yorvit 27.50
28 Miller, Damian 28.50
29 Navarro, Dioner 29.00
30 Willingham, Josh 29.00
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Postby wrveres » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:12 pm

actaully that Javy Lopez number is wrong
I had a bad number on him .. its fixed now

he should be at 4 with a 5.1
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Postby Mookie4ever » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:26 pm

Wow - tied for 7th in RBI among ML catchers last year and he is the undisputed starter in a revamped Jays lineup and Greg Zaun does not make the top 30?
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:24 am

Mookie4ever wrote:Wow - tied for 7th in RBI among ML catchers last year and he is the undisputed starter in a revamped Jays lineup and Greg Zaun does not make the top 30?
The 29 R, 5 HR, 26 RBI, .224 BA post-All Star game might have a lot to do with that.

I'm wondering why John Buck is #17?
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Postby logan » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:04 am

shortsavage wrote:
logan wrote:
BigLebowski wrote:Looks to me like AJ is gonna fall again this year. Works for me. ;-D


yeah i'm not quite sure i get why he is ranked so low on some of the lists. he isn't spectacular but he is a solid option at catcher with a team thet should drive in more runs top t bottom this year.


AJ got positive reinforcement from the Sox to the tune of an average of $5 million a year for hitting .257.

Viable fantasy catchers don't hit .257. $5 million a year positive reinforcement is for top tier catchers. Pierzynski is neither viable or top tier.


so he hits .250 one time when joining a new team and you ignore the fact that he has hit .270 or above for the 4 years previous? (.288,.300,.312,.271) and his three year avg is .294. he had a carrer high in homers and his second highest total in runs.no he most likely hit his ceiling in homers but the chances he gets nore rbi's with the people in fornt of him is pretty good considering the trend shows his is not a .250 hitter.

if viable catchers don't hit .257 then why is posada any more viable than AJ as he hit .260 last year? apparently it isn't all about the avg if that's the case as you have him ranked 4.


as i said he isn't some spectacular name (ala posada) but he will be solid and viable this year.will he hit .300? probably not. will he hit around .280? definitely.
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Postby danleroi22 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:09 am

Where do you all project Piazza in the draft? 6th round?
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:19 pm

danleroi22 wrote:Where do you all project Piazza in the draft? 6th round?
Much, much lower. I think 10th round would be the very earliest.
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