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Postby BronXBombers51 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:56 pm

blankman wrote:Myers is solid? You're joking right? He's yet another mediocre to awful reliever.


How is he awful? He's a great lefty specialist, and that's all he should be used for. He's not a guy who's going to throw an inning or two every night. He comes in to get out one batter (ala David Ortiz) and then he's out. He can be very successful in that role.
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Postby The Big Stick » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:46 pm

disgruntledjetsfan wrote:The bullpen honestly doesn't worry me that much. I think that Farnsworth is already a good reliever, and has tremendous potential. Not many people can throw heat like he can. As for Dotel, I'm skeptical about his injury, but if he gets healthy, then they will have 2 set up men for the 7th and 8th, as opposed to just one like last year. Myers is solid, villone is mediocre, sturtze is mediocre, but Small and Wright will be good for long relief situations. If the yankees can get to the 7th in one piece, they are extremely solid.


I think the Yanks are just fine. Pitching in the AL is not so great. I have looked at every team in the AL The White Sox are good. I am not afraid of The Jays, Oakland, Red Sox, Twins or The Angles. I think it comes down to The Yanks and White Sox. The White Sox overall maybe better but, if the starting pitching and D can stand strong in Sept and Oct I like the Yanks chances.
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Postby thedude » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:59 am

This isn't the year the yankees have to worry about. Despite a suspect rotation and bullpen they will win the AL East and then get bumped by Cleveland in the first round of the playoffs.


I would worrying more about 2008 when the D-Rays, Red Sox, and Blue Jays will have younger, more talented teams...
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Postby blankman » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:58 am

BronXBombers51 wrote:
blankman wrote:Myers is solid? You're joking right? He's yet another mediocre to awful reliever.


How is he awful? He's a great lefty specialist, and that's all he should be used for. He's not a guy who's going to throw an inning or two every night. He comes in to get out one batter (ala David Ortiz) and then he's out. He can be very successful in that role.


We'll see.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:02 am

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blankman wrote:Myers is solid? You're joking right? He's yet another mediocre to awful reliever.


How is he awful? He's a great lefty specialist, and that's all he should be used for. He's not a guy who's going to throw an inning or two every night. He comes in to get out one batter (ala David Ortiz) and then he's out. He can be very successful in that role.


We'll see.


All the Yankees have to do is use him in his role. If they're expecting him to be like Mike Stanton (the good one) then they are wrong. He's a 1 batter pitcher. If they start using him in other situations, he'll get smacked.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:40 pm

Myers is a bum. Look at his career totals for pete's sake.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/myersmi01.shtml

His WHIP is outright scary. If you think this guy is going to be worth squat you are basically hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. The man is 36.

Farnsworth has had one decent year but we all know the guy can lose his control at any time.

Sturtz is a mop-up man and nothing more.

And let's not talk about Villone.


The bullpen is at the very best equal to last year's mess assuming Farnsworth can do a decent job. That is not good.

The starting staff is a bunch of older, injury prone guys led by gopher ball Johnson and a rapidly regressing Moose. Chacon may actually be their best pitcher.

And while the offense will light up the board during the regular season, we all saw what the great A-Choke and others managed in the playoffs against notable Cy Young pitching candidates like Paul Byrd, Jarrod Washburn and John Lackey....i.e. they choked vs mediocre SPs. As someone noted, it was not the pitching that let this team down in the 2005 playoffs, it was the disappearance of the offense, particularly the heart of the order come crunch time.

This team is built to win 100 games in the regular season and lose int he first rouynd of the playoffs unless they get guys liek RJ and Pavano tto step up on the staff and the offense decides not to take a vacation once the playoffs start.
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Postby WharfRat » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:25 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:Myers is a bum. Look at his career totals for pete's sake.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/myersmi01.shtml

His WHIP is outright scary. If you think this guy is going to be worth squat you are basically hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. The man is 36.


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           IP    H  HR  BB   K  WHIP  BAA
Last 3    75.1   57  6  25  56  1.09  .208
Career:  258.0  191 19 107 269  1.16  .207


He's a LOOGY. He's supposed to get out lefties. I haven't compared, but those numbers don't look too bad. If they keep him away from righties as much as possible, he might do well. But at the very least, I'm not real clear what there is in these numbers to cause you bile. Give the man a chance, quit yer bellyachin.

Farnsworth has had one decent year but we all know the guy can lose his control at any time.


LMAO, I forgot, the 2001 and 2003 seasons were swallowed in a time vortex and no longer count (because the Yanks lost the Series, maybe?). ;-7 Fine point about the control, but if you say he's only had one decent season...? :-?

Give these guys a chance at least, they deserve that much before you dump all over them. Jesus H. Christ man.
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Postby exoticcars » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:00 pm

I like the Yankees lineup...

Jeter will put up bigger number than last year since he'll be hitting 2 and the 3, 4, 5 hitters will have TONS of RIB's to drive in since Daemon and Jeter will have an OBP easily in the 400's. A-rod could put up monsterous numbers if he begins to hit in the easy RBI's (i.e. sac fly) and i think his numbers will be .315-49-140

I like Giambi in fantasy and in real life... he's got his strength back and by hitting behind A-Rod and Sheff pitchers will have no way to pitch around him.. esp with Cano and Jorge follwing up...

I dont think Cano will have a soph slump and by hitting #8 or 9, he will have plenty of opportunities to steal bases, score runs and hit for average... there will be less presure then when he was hitting 2

Sheff will have another big year.

Pitching will be a question, but not as much as last year...
Randy will be good... he'll have rough spots but he'll have 17-20 wins esp with the run support
Moose will be solid and i think he'll get 20 wins (finally) if he stays healthy
Pavano will bounce back and have a solid year, but not his 2004 numbers (that was a one time thing)
Wang will be a great #4 if his wing is healed and he keeps the ball down in the zone
Wright will be the odd man out...
Chacon will take the #5 spot have will put up #3 numbers.. and fantasty wise he'll be a steal late in the draft (if he's around)
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Postby ReginaldVelJohnson » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:12 pm

20 for Moose? I highly, highly doubt that. Maybe 14 wins.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:39 pm

ReginaldVelJohnson wrote:20 for Moose? I highly, highly doubt that. Maybe 14 wins.


I agree. I'll have a heartattack if Moose wins 20 games this year.
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