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Is the pitching ever going to come???

Postby Jenkins » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:13 am

I swear. We just traded Brazelton for more offense. What in the world. He had great talent and will probably tear it up Jorge Sosa style. Are we ever going to get pitching? Brazelton wasn't great, but the way we're heading we cant afford to give away ANY. Just wondering. Maybe we can teach one of our ten amazing outfielders to pitch.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:13 pm

I would not necessarily state that getting Burroughs improves the offense, just getting rid of Brazelton from our team was a plus though. Burroughs does not have to be a 35 homer guy, he just needs to play some good defense and hit a decent average. I really think it was a good trade for both teams, as both players had worn out there welcome at their home clubs. But dang wouldn't it be nice to go back in time and change that Brazelton pick. Tex or Wright would both have been just fine :~( :~(
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Niemann/Townsend

Postby Jenkins » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:26 pm

I hear surgery went well for him. He should be the future Ace. Hopefully, he will return to health soon.

Whats the deal with Townsend?
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Postby Jenkins » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:28 pm

I was referring to the surgery with Niemann.
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Re: Niemann/Townsend

Postby raiders_umpire » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:41 pm

Jenkins wrote:I hear surgery went well for him. He should be the future Ace. Hopefully, he will return to health soon.

Whats the deal with Townsend?




If Niemann can turn into a solid #2 MLB pitcher, I will be very pleased. As far as Townsend, he will be out all year due to the surgery so I can only hope that he can come back in 07 and prove himself in the minors.
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Postby hybrid » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:31 am

raiders_umpire wrote:But dang wouldn't it be nice to go back in time and change that Brazelton pick. Tex or Wright would both have been just fine :~( :~(


Though in all fairness, Tex never wanted to go to TB and made it pretty clear to the organization. He prefered to go to another team and with Boras as his agent he obviously made it work to his advantage. He was basically the Eli Manning of the draft you could say, it was just less known/publicized cause it was the MLB draft.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:41 pm

hybrid wrote:
raiders_umpire wrote:But dang wouldn't it be nice to go back in time and change that Brazelton pick. Tex or Wright would both have been just fine :~( :~(


Though in all fairness, Tex never wanted to go to TB and made it pretty clear to the organization. He prefered to go to another team and with Boras as his agent he obviously made it work to his advantage. He was basically the Eli Manning of the draft you could say, it was just less known/publicized cause it was the MLB draft.




Yea Tex was anti Drays, but it sure would have been a nice pick looking back at it though.
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:51 pm

Well, it looks like now that the best the Rays can do is trade/develop the pitching and hope that in a couple of years the team can sign a veteran starter (e.g. a John Thomson type) to give leadership.

Anyway, I would like to see more of what Florida has done in trading for pitching. The Baez deal was a start. Hopefully Gathright brings Olsen and who knows what Huff might bring. Then, go with pitching in the draft and maybe by July, we'll have 10 legitimate prospects. Then hope 1/3 pan out, add Kaz and a veteran starter and you have a staff.
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Postby d-ray07 » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:41 pm

Ten Pitching Prospects with where they finished 2005

1. Kazmir Majors
2. Niemann AA
3. Jackson Majors
4. Hammel AAA
5. Tiffany Hi-A
6. Sonannstine Hi-A
7. Davis SS-A
8. McGee SS-A
9. Mason Lo-A
10. ????

Unfortunately, 5 of the 9 finished last year in Class A.
This list doesn't include last year's pick like Townsend, Hellickson, and Bryan Morris if he is signed this spring.

It would be nice to put Olsen in this list or if we send Lugo to Boston and don't get Marte, Lester or Papelbon.
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:07 pm

Well, every team has 10 pitching prospects. My understanding is that the Rays don't have 10 good to upper tier prospects, though that is changing. Of course, hybrid can correct me if wrong. But, personally, I just don't start looking at guys until they get to hi-A - too many rookie and low-A wonders that haven't panned out for me to get excited.

That said, I agree that if Olsen and possibly a Lester/Papelborn or say, Guzman from the Cubs and I'd feel much better about them finding 4-5 #3+ starters.
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