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Why does Bonderman get no love???

Postby Manfred » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:19 pm

last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.
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Postby bleach168 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:28 pm

Shhhhhh...

He's one of my sleepers.
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Re: Why does Bonderman get no love???

Postby Red Stripe » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:34 pm

Manfred wrote:last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.


I definitely haven't forgot about him. I wouldn't say top 10 since he's on Detroit and might lack some wins (although he got a lot of run support last year). I'd rank him in the mid to high teens this year ahead of guys like Mulder, Beckett and Zito.
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:06 pm

Perhaps you should address this question to Mrs. Bonderman.
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Postby Red Stripe » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:20 pm

GotowarMissAgnes wrote:Perhaps you should address this question to Mrs. Bonderman.


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Re: Why does Bonderman get no love???

Postby cordscords » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:25 pm

Red Stripe wrote:
Manfred wrote:last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.


I definitely haven't forgot about him. I wouldn't say top 10 since he's on Detroit and might lack some wins (although he got a lot of run support last year). I'd rank him in the mid to high teens this year ahead of guys like Mulder, Beckett and Zito.


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Postby Trot Nixon » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:32 pm

bleach168 wrote:Shhhhhh...

He's one of my sleepers.
Ditto!
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Re: Why does Bonderman get no love???

Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:38 pm

Manfred wrote:last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.
He's a nice guy to have but top 10. Not going to happen. I'd be happy if he got his ERA under 4.
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Re: Why does Bonderman get no love???

Postby Red Stripe » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:39 pm

cordscords wrote:
Red Stripe wrote:
Manfred wrote:last year, he was the breakout pick. Yeah, he finished off the season very poorly, but he was downright dominating in many starts. Now, you never hear about him. I know it's early, but it's liek everyone forgot abotu him. I think he ends up a top 10 starter this year.


I definitely haven't forgot about him. I wouldn't say top 10 since he's on Detroit and might lack some wins (although he got a lot of run support last year). I'd rank him in the mid to high teens this year ahead of guys like Mulder, Beckett and Zito.


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Ya, they're all at least in the same tier and all the same caliber IMO. Not sure if Bonderman is totally outright in front of them but I Think that's the pack of guys he should be ranked around.
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Postby J35J » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:42 pm

You can have him. He has shown some pretty good ability but he has also shown absolute crap, which is why he ends the year with a high 4's ERA and a crap ratio. Not to mention his K/9 really dropped off last year. He hasn't proven a thing and just looks to me like one of those guys that gets overhyped every year.

I'll take a look at him when his ERA gets closer to 4 than 5 and his ratio can drop below 1.30.

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