Nomar a Dodger - Fantasy Baseball Cafe 2014 Fantasy Baseball Cafe
100% Deposit Bonus for Cafe Members!

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Nomar a Dodger

Moderator: Baseball Moderators

Nomar a Dodger

Postby HOOTIE » Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:05 am

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/otherMLB ... eid=117601

Ok guys let's hear it. DePodesta would have never been so dumb. Nomar gets 6 mil, with a chance at 8 mil for 1 year at 1b. And you guys rip Seattle for giving a mere 3.4 mil to Everett, who's ops+ was close to Nomars. Nomars career numbers were inflated by Fenway, a 50 point swing in avg. This is a terrible signing, given he could make 8 mil.
Smells Like Teen Spirit
HOOTIE
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicResponse TeamFantasy ExpertCafe Ranker
Posts: 15115
(Past Year: 297)
Joined: 12 Jan 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Pearl Jam country, right next door to Nirvana, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains.

Postby Yoda » Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:44 am

I don't see anything wrong with this signing. Nomar is still a great hitter. If he stays healthy, he'll do fine.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
Yoda
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Fantasy ExpertMock(ing) Drafter
Posts: 21344
Joined: 21 Jan 2005
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: 15th green...

Postby wrveres » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:07 am

Nomar is from LA and will put people in to the seats. Just his name alone will create a buzz in LA. Smart signing by Coletti.

..

How many people do you think Carl Everett will put into the seats? ;-7
25                "Love the Padres"
Rafael

Dodgers FAIL|Mets FAIL|Canada FAIL
wrveres
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicFantasy ExpertCafe WriterEagle EyeInnovative MemberCafe Musketeer
Posts: 31773
(Past Year: 758)
Joined: 2 Mar 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball

Postby shortsavage » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:21 am

Nomar is only 32 and has hit over .300 every season that he has had more than 500 at bats (6). Carl Everett is 34 and hit .250 last season.
shortsavage
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
Cafe WriterWeb Supporter
Posts: 2946
Joined: 25 Aug 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: UC Davis

Postby looptid » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:45 am

Who cares about a one year contract, regardless of the salary anyway? The Dodgers obviously had the money this season or they couldn't have signed him, and they won't be impacted by the deal in any coming season.
Image
looptid
Minor League Mentor
Minor League Mentor

User avatar

Posts: 668
Joined: 11 Nov 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: St. Paul, MN

Postby HOOTIE » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:07 am

wrveres wrote:Nomar is from LA and will put people in to the seats. Just his name alone will create a buzz in LA. Smart signing by Coletti.

..

How many people do you think Carl Everett will put into the seats? ;-7


So we sign people to put fans in seats? I thought winning did that? Cubs attendance dropped following them getting Nomar. How many games has Nomar played at 1B before? None.

SS, true Nomar use to be a force. But his ops+ and rc/27 have been dropping for years. His career numbers were Fenway helped. A .956 Fenway ops versus his .883 road ops. And that includes his good years. He's in Dodger Stadium now. Even his last full year in Boston was a .870 ops. Not bad, but middle of pack at 1B. Given his career splits and decline, i see him lucky to get a .850 ops, which puts him in Shawn Green, Jay Gibbons territory. Would you give them a chance at 8 mil a year?
Smells Like Teen Spirit
HOOTIE
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicResponse TeamFantasy ExpertCafe Ranker
Posts: 15115
(Past Year: 297)
Joined: 12 Jan 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Pearl Jam country, right next door to Nirvana, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains.

Postby davidmarver » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:23 am

Few things you're overlooking HOOTIE:

- Comparing Nomar and Everett is like comparing apples and oranges. Nomar is liked by nearly everyone, he's coming home, and is a financial draw (endorsements, jerseys). Everett has been a headache everywhere he has been and he moves around far too often to generate some sort of 'name' to the casual fan. The game is about winning, but it doesn't take much to win in the NL West...might as well bring home someone the fans can take a liking to.
- Nomar brings a ton of flexibility to the Dodgers. While they already have some sort of situation with Furcal, Izturis, and Kent, having Nomar gives the Dodgers a few more permutations they can make moves-wise. Garciaparra has said he doesn't care where (on the diamond) he plays.
- While Nomar, as you said, would be an average 1b (Shawn Green-like numbers), you're forgetting that that's actually an upgrade for the Dodgers.

I'm not going to defend the Dodgers' offseason moves (acquiring Furcal is ridiculously superfluous), but I think this is the least faulty of them...trying to justify the Everett signing through this signing isn't a great argument.
Image
davidmarver
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Cafe WriterMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyePick 3 ChampionLucky Ladders Weekly WinnerTrivia Time Trial Monthly Winner
Posts: 6154
Joined: 11 Jan 2005
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: 5.5 Hole

Postby raiders_umpire » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:55 am

I don't really have a problem with signing Nomar for 6 million. I thought he would have gone a bit cheaper though as I figured he would have been had for about 4 million in 06. If healthy, the Dodgers are putting together a very tough top of the order with Furcal, Nomar, Kent, and Drew.
Image
raiders_umpire
Moderator
Moderator

User avatar
ModeratorCafeholicFantasy ExpertCafe WriterCafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyeInnovative MemberCafe MusketeerPick 3 Weekly WinnerMatchup Meltdown SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 27781
Joined: 14 Dec 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: You will be missed, Robert Smeraldo.

Postby J.C.Fighter » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:50 am

Now time to trade the A-hole kent and I'll be pleased...
J.C.Fighter
Major League Manager
Major League Manager


Posts: 1620
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Home Cafe: Baseball

Postby nsulham » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:05 am

Thank you for doing the right thing Nomie :-)
Image
nsulham
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
CafeholicFantasy ExpertMock(ing) Drafter
Posts: 4883
Joined: 26 Dec 2002
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Charlottesville

Next

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: buiviopaufamp and 9 guests

Forums Articles & Tips Sleepers Rankings Leagues


Today's Games
Wednesday, Aug. 20
(All times are EST, weather icons show forecast for game time)

Texas at Miami
(12:40 pm)
indoors
Seattle at Philadelphia
(1:05 pm)
Toronto at Milwaukee
(2:10 pm)
NY Mets at Oakland
(3:35 pm)
Houston at NY Yankees
(7:05 pm)
Atlanta at Pittsburgh
(7:05 pm)
Arizona at Washington
(7:05 pm)
Detroit at Tampa Bay
(7:10 pm)
indoors
LA Angels at Boston
(7:10 pm)
Cincinnati at St. Louis
(7:15 pm)
San Francisco at Chi Cubs
(8:05 pm)
Baltimore at Chi White Sox
(8:10 pm)
Cleveland at Minnesota
(8:10 pm)
Kansas City at Colorado
(8:40 pm)
San Diego at LA Dodgers
(10:10 pm)

  • Fantasy Baseball
  • Article Submissions
  • Privacy Statement
  • Site Survey 
  • Contact