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Postby wrveres » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:27 am

1.119 ..

that is his whip vs. righthanded batting over the last three years.
Tony La Russa knows how to use a bullpen ...

Looper will be fine.
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:21 am

Another Blown Save wrote:Why didn't they use that money to resingn Tavarez?


tavarez is kind of flaky. fell apart to the tune of a 1.63 whip in the 2nd half. and he is a boras client so he is looking for something near 4/20.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:21 am

I like the signing. Maybe he is slightly overpaid but given the market the deal looks pretty good.
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Postby stevethumb » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:01 pm

WittyC wrote:Looper's a bargain compared to what Hendry spent on Howry and Eyre.

And say what you will about Braden, but he hasn't posted over a 4.00 ERA since '00, he has just under 90 saves over the last three years (including two w/ the crappy Mets), and he had phenomenal seasons in '02 and '04. He should be around his prime still at 31, and I think this was a great deal considering the market.

I have a feeling that we'll be looking back after another deep postseason run by the Cards and saying that this was a great deal.
...i don't think howry and eyre were coming off shoulder surgery in october and individually signed for less than this...wayyyy too much time and money for blooper...who else was bidding on him ?
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Postby chadlincoln » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:23 pm

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Postby Music2004Man » Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:22 pm

I think Looper is slightly overpaid in this deal but the Cards need help in the bullpen so he definitely fits a need. Having a guy with closing experience who can fill in for Izzy when he needs a break will be great as well.
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Postby Amazinz » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:35 pm

Looper is way overpaid but so is every other stinking reliever this year. You're just not going to sign a reliever this off-season without overpaying. Within the context of the market I don't think the deal is that bad. I would rather have Tavarez than Looper but Looper pitched hurt all of last year and should bounce back nicely in a setup role for the Cards. He also gives them good insurance as a guy who can step in and fill the role adequately when Izzy is hurt.
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Postby clevername » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:47 pm

wrveres wrote:1.119 ..

that is his whip vs. righthanded batting over the last three years.
Tony La Russa knows how to use a bullpen ...

Looper will be fine.


exactly.

Looper complements Rincon well. LaRussa has his righty and lefty specialist now and an emergency closer if Izzy gets hurt.

Word is they're still in on Dotel as well.
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Postby RAmst23 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:15 pm

Amazinz wrote:Looper is way overpaid but so is every other stinking reliever this year. You're just not going to sign a reliever this off-season without overpaying. Within the context of the market I don't think the deal is that bad. I would rather have Tavarez than Looper but Looper pitched hurt all of last year and should bounce back nicely in a setup role for the Cards. He also gives them good insurance as a guy who can step in and fill the role adequately when Izzy is hurt.


For any team that wishes to improve this offseason, that team has to overspend. I agree that this is a good signing in the context of the market.

The key for any team is to win THIS year, and Looper helps the Cardinals in doing that. Could the Redbrids wait, not sign Looper, and perhaps find a better deal next year? Maybe, if that market isn't also inflated, but that's next year.

While there may be several signings this year for "too much money," it has to be done.
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Postby stevethumb » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:29 pm

clevername wrote:
wrveres wrote:1.119 ..

that is his whip vs. righthanded batting over the last three years.
Tony La Russa knows how to use a bullpen ...

Looper will be fine.


exactly.

Looper complements Rincon well. LaRussa has his righty and lefty specialist now and an emergency closer if Izzy gets hurt.

Word is they're still in on Dotel as well.
....looper complements rincon ?? looper couldnt get LHers out (.336 OBA) and rincon struggled in his 37 whole innings last yr
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