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Postby giants! » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:19 pm

Again based on standard 5 by 5 league, players are slotted in the position in which they are most valuable.

1. Albert Pujols- simply the best fantast player
2. Mark Tiexira- could improve average to go with 40 plus homers
3. David Ortiz- value drops greatly if manny is traded
4. Todd Helton- showed great signs at the end of last year
5. Derrek Lee- think last year was flukish and he should return to 2004 numbers
6. Carlos Delgado- in incredible lineup, should improve on last year's numbers
7. Adam Dunn- not many people are near locks for 40+ homers
8. Lance Berkman- was solid after coming back from injury
9. Richie Sexson- putting up great power numbers in horrible park
10. Jason Giambi- translate second half numbers to full year and you have first round numbers
11. Ryan Howard- great park, great player
12. Paul Konerko- pretty much a one category player and worse than the two others like him
13. Jim Thome- could be top 5 1b if he remains healthy
14. Mike Sweeney- produces when healthy
15. Aubrey Huff- struggled last year
16. Lyle Overbay- could benefit from Rogers Centre
17. Nick Johnson- needs to play even when hurt
18. Justin Morneau- due for a breakout?
19. Sean Casey- always hits for average
20. Chris Shelton- was incredible at times last year
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Postby Another Blown Save » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:22 pm

Pretty good list, except I woudl put Konerko higher.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:26 pm

What great signs did Helton show? His power never returned even playinghalf his games in Coors.

Paul Konerko at 12 below Sexson, Helton and Howard?

Berkman imo will end up being #4-6 on the list when all is said and done if he stays healthy.

Pujols - no debate
Tex
Ortiz
Lee
Berkman
Delgado
Dunn
Konerko
Sexson
Howard
Giambi
Helton - yeah I do not think much of him de-roided.
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Postby kentx12 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:28 pm

1st off I would switch Delgado with Helton. Even though Helton looked better the 2nd half of last year I still believe Delgado will put up much better numbers.

The other problem I see is having Konerko listed at 12th. You say he is a 1 category player but he seems to be getting better in every category. last year he hit .283 not bad from a power hitting 1st baseman, 99 rbi's, and scored 98 runs to go with his 40 hr's. That looks like he is pretty much a 4 tool player. I would list my top 10 as

Pujols
Tex
Ortiz
Delgado
Lee
Konerko
Helton
Berkman
Dunn "the power is great but the avg. can kill a roto team"
Sexson

If Hafner qualifies at 1st in your league I would stick him in at 4.
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Postby djacks » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:28 pm

I'd bump Berkman up a couple of spots and drop Helton and DLee a spot or two...

Good list though... ;-D
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Postby giants! » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:48 pm

Made the list w/o including hafner b/c he played 1 game there last year and is not eligible
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Postby RynMan » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:04 pm

I would drop Delgado, mainly because I think Shea will take a toll on his numbers. Call me crazy but I might take Howard over Giambi in the bandbox that he plays in.
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Postby kentx12 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:07 pm

RynMan wrote:I would drop Delgado, mainly because I think Shea will take a toll on his numbers. Call me crazy but I might take Howard over Giambi in the bandbox that he plays in.



Even if Delgado looses some of his hr's I still dont see anything else dropping and maybe even the Avg and Rbi's going up a little in Shea. He had a decent lineup around him last year but he is going to be in an allstar lineup this year that still could get even better before the start of the season. I dont believe he looses any value in this move to the Mets.
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Postby The_Met_Threat » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:13 pm

RynMan wrote:I would drop Delgado, mainly because I think Shea will take a toll on his numbers. Call me crazy but I might take Howard over Giambi in the bandbox that he plays in.


Delgado moved from Florida to New york, i think thats actually an improvement in terms of the park factor. Plus now he has Beltran and Reyes to drive in and maybe Wright and Floyd to hit him in.
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Postby bigken117 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:14 pm

RynMan wrote:I would drop Delgado, mainly because I think Shea will take a toll on his numbers. Call me crazy but I might take Howard over Giambi in the bandbox that he plays in.


I would take Howard over Giambi also. He's the real deal and like you mentioned, he plays in Coors East.
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