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Postby Music2004Man » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:08 pm

As a Phillies fan I'm glad to hear they are getting rid of Padilla. Good luck with him Rangers. Has anyone heard who the PTBNL is?

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Postby Havok1517 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:09 pm

Both Washburn and Millwood are predominate fly ball pitchers. So, neither of them would be good fits for the Rangers.
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Postby slomo007 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:12 pm

Havok1517 wrote:Both Washburn and Millwood are predominate fly ball pitchers. So, neither of them would be good fits for the Rangers.


The other alternatives are much longer fly ball pitchers. :-b
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:25 pm

You guys are so optimistic about such a mediocre pitcher(stat wise)
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Postby slomo007 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:32 pm

PlayingWithFire wrote:You guys are so optimistic about such a mediocre pitcher(stat wise)


It seems to be a no-loss situation (depending on who the PTBNL is). Apparently he is a FA after this season, so if he stinks then it's a one year rental for a guy who does have some upside, even though he's not an ace. If it doesn't work out, throw him to the curb in the offseason.

I like the move personally.
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Postby Music2004Man » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:37 pm

I don't think it can be considered a bad move for the Rangers. I doubt the Phils asked for much in return. They were probably just looking to drop the salary. He has a lot of potential, and nasty stuff but he's never lived up to it. Maybe a new start will jumpstart him.
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Postby Havok1517 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:43 pm

3 years ago, Barry Larkin said Padilla had some of the best suff in the majors. I think this is a good deal for the Rangers and hopefully it will pay. I was thinking about adding him to my list of pitchers that could improve the Rangers. But he has been giving up the long-ball the last couple of years while suffering through injuries. They need a lot of help.

[quote]I'm bored and saw something that struck me. Anybody seen the Ranger's current pitching staff? Dreadful!!!! Their team management has been so bad the last couple of years it is ridiculious. Without a doubt, this is the worst starff in all of baseball, yes, even worse than Fla.

1. C. Young (the only bright spot, a dim one at that, no way he should be their #1 starter, should only be a #3 or #4 right now)
2. M. Riley (Could be effective, if healthy? But predominatly a fly ball pitcher)
3. R. Rodriguez (a RP starting)
4. J. Dominguez (a RP starting)
5. K. Loe (potential, but should be a spot starter or #5 guy at most)
LR B. Shouse (a lefty specialist pitcher only, 1 or 2 batters worth)
LR C. Wilson (MR, good GO/AO)
LR J. Leicester (smartest move all off season for them)
LR S. Feldman (Getting tire of typing crap)
MR. R. Dickey ("The Thing" should only be a 1 inning RP, change of pace gimmic pitcher, he only has 2 pitches and should never start!)
MR N. Regilio (Injured Crap!)
MR J. Wasdin (Old Crap)
SU E. Ramirez (Crap!)
SU J. Benoit (A fly ball pitcher @ Tex, his great arm needs to be in a larger park to make up for his mistakes)
SU F. Francisco (Throws chairs and heat, can be a good setup guy)
SU F. Castro (Needs to get stronger)
SU J. Zimmerman (Hopefully, will return at close form)
CL F. Cordero (Good, but they gotta get to him)
Min. J. Rupe (Interesting GO/AO ratio)
Min. E. Volquez (Potential)
Min. J. Silva (always has been crap)
Min. J. Durocher (not sure)

The whole staff, besides Young, Loe, Leicester, Francisco, Cordero, and besides the hurt Zim & Riley, suck where they are. Pitchers are starting when they have no business doing it and some shouldn't even be pitching in the majors. There is no leadership in the bullpen. They just need to gut pretty much the entire staff and start over. Mark Conner needs to be fired and probably so should Buck Showalter and hire someone like Don Gullett(PC) and Jim Fergosi.

They have plenty of sought after talent to trade such as, Benoit, Laird, Matthews, Gonzalez, Wilkerson, & Mench). If has been rumored that Tex is seeking Matt Morris's services, I think he'll be overpriced and won't have that much effect on the team. He'd be the best fit of the top free agent pitchers remaining but will evidently sign with SF.

10 pitchers the Rangers should target...
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- K. Saarloos (Once regarded as a top Hou prospect. I think he proved he is a capable MLB starter (good GO/AO ratio) and Oak needs offense and is shopping him)

- M. Batista (Tor, lost his rotation spot and Tex is already targeting him, but they should really try their hardest to acquire him. He's won before and should provide some much needed leadership to their rotation)

- B. Hennessey (SF, ground ball pitcher that shows signs of becoming a good bottom of rotation guy)

- N. Robertson (Det, has lost some favor and has Verlander and Ledezma on his heals with so room for him in the future rotation. A dominating pitcher when on, great K totals with a good sinkerball)

- S. Ponson (FA, I like Tex taking a chance on a low buy/high reward player like this. Just load the contract with incentives and conduct clauses and it could be a great move)

- S. Burnett (Pit has a surplus of SP (not to mention LHPs) has a good GO/AO ratio and Pit needs OF help)

- J. Tavarez (FA, the Yanks and Cards want him a lot, but Tex should not lose out on him like they did with Farns, will probably go elsewhere though) Maybe, Looper instead.

- D. Graves (FA, succeeded in Cin until #^&% hit the fan, knows how to pitch in hitters park and could be had for relatively cheap)

- B. League (Tor closer of the future, could be combined with Batista in deal for Mench/Wikerson. He has electric stuff)

- A. Alfonseca (FA, Marlins interested in resigning him, but 6 finger would provide stability to bullpen)

I would also try and sign potential bargins like O. Dotel, J. Jimenez, & D. Dreifort to incentive laden contracts.
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How to get 'em
Trade Wilkerson & Laird to Tor for Batista, League, & Hudson

Trade Gonzalez & Benoit to SF for Hennessey & Ellison/Valdez

Trade Matthews to Pit for Burnett

Trade prospects to Det for Robertson

Trade Mench to A's for Saarloos and some pitching prospects

Sign Ponson, Alfonseca, Taverez, & Graves

SP M. Batista
SP N. Robertson
SP C. Young
SP K. Saarloos
SP S. Ponson
P C. Loe/Burnett
P J. Leicester/M. Riley
P D. Graves
P B. League
RP F. Francisco
RP J. Tavarez/J. Zimmerman
RP F. Cordero

Send pitchers that shouldn't be in the majors home or back to the minors where they belong.

C R. Barajas
1B M. Teixera
2B O. Hudson
SS M. Young
3B H. Blaylock
LF T. Sledge
CF L. Nix
RF D. Dellucci
DH P. Nevin
-Maybe sign another OF (Encarnacion or Mondesi)

Wow, this is crazy. As you can see, the end result is a vastly improved team, I think.[/quote]
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Postby RynMan » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:48 pm

I wonder why the Phillies did this deal. They don't have enough pitching to be trading it away. Nice move by the Rangers.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:57 pm

Nice move by the Rangers, heres hoping Padilla can finally make the end result be close to equal to the talent level, but I also will say that this will be the first year in about 4 years that I do not have Padilla as my late round sleeper. ( and yes I know that Arlington is not that worst then Philly)
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Postby GameOn » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:55 pm

I just read on Rotoworld that ken Rosenthal thinks the PTBNL is Ricardo Rodriguez. If this is the case I'm not sure that this was such a good move on the Rangers behalf. Ricardo could probably be just as good as Padilla next year, at a fraction of the costs.
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