Yes, I'm quite aware of their history, which is why this is surprising to me. Too many of you (not that I haven't been guilty of this; I was with the Sexson and Beltre signings by the M's last year) are jumping on the bandwagon because you see big dollar figures. But this isn't the way to build a business -- you don't commit almost ten million a year to a closer, period. They're too volatile. You'd all have been saying that sort of money was too little for Gagne a year and a half ago, but look at what happened there. Watch when K-Rod goes down with an injury. Look at Troy Percival after age 30. Look at almost anybody outside of Mariano Rivera. You just don't give that sort of money to a pitcher, especially a hard-throwing reliever, unless they're young and durable. Ryan is not young. He'll be 30 later this month, and that signals a decline in performance for most pitchers.mweir145 wrote:Do you know anything about the Toronto Blue Jays organization other than the fact that they have signed two of the top FA's this year? Do you just naturally assume the Jays have an extremely high payroll because of these moves? They've been cheap for 5 years, it's about time they got back into the chase for the AL East. The Jays certainly have the money to spend, they aren't some small market team, it's just a matter of whether Ted Rogers wants to spend it or not.
Let's look at it this way: If he maintains his current level of production, he's winning above five games a year for his team. We're talking about 9.4 mil/year in salary. That's 1.88 million per win. In the AL, it takes about 94 wins to reach the playoffs. So, in order to reach the playoffs spending at this rate, the Jays would have to spend 176 million dollars. Explain to me how that's good business, again?
I can understand this kind of spending to try to overcome that last little hump. The Phillies could spend this sort of money and feasibly launch an assault against the Braves. Once they reach the playoffs, revenues increase and it's easier to recoup that money.
But this just doesn't make sense. You don't sign a 30-year-old with two-and-a-half good years behind him for this money.
His BEST year was 5.5 WARP. Let's assume, for the sake of this argument, that he manages that over the length of his contract. That's two million dollars per win (11m/year), meaning they'd have to spend almost 200 million just to make the playoffs.
Look, I know the Yankees do it. But it hasn't gotten them anywhere recently, has it? The Indians are one of the best teams in the AL, they're going to make the playoffs this year (they were the true best team in their division in '05), and they don't spend that much. The A's don't spend that much. Just because some teams spend it doesn't make it acceptable. (Oh, and Burnett is a 28-year-old injury-prone pitcher who will be 29 by the beginning of next year. If he hasn't established himself yet, he never will. He seems younger because of his injury history. His potential is not a valid reason to sign him to such a contract at this point.)
And your "they've been cheap" argument? What, their past intelligence excuses their current stupidity?