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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:23 am

The Mets and Boston Red Sox are believed to represent the Cardinals' chief competition for bringing back Mark Grudzielanek, who is seeking a multiyear deal for a minimum $3 million a season.
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Somehow I don't see the Cards spending that much on him
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:23 am

Pogotheostrich wrote:
The Mets and Boston Red Sox are believed to represent the Cardinals' chief competition for bringing back Mark Grudzielanek, who is seeking a multiyear deal for a minimum $3 million a season.
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Somehow I don't see the Cards spending that much on him


3 mil isnt bad. i was worried he would go for closer to 5.
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Postby KoopaTroopa211 » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:05 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
The Mets and Boston Red Sox are believed to represent the Cardinals' chief competition for bringing back Mark Grudzielanek, who is seeking a multiyear deal for a minimum $3 million a season.
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Why not? I'd pay good money, because he's a good player, and 2B stability is omething we haven't had in a while. Remember 2004, when 2B was an eternal Anderson-Womack-Luna-Hart platoon? Never again.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:24 am

KoopaTroopa211 wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:
The Mets and Boston Red Sox are believed to represent the Cardinals' chief competition for bringing back Mark Grudzielanek, who is seeking a multiyear deal for a minimum $3 million a season.
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Somehow I don't see the Cards spending that much on him


Why not? I'd pay good money, because he's a good player, and 2B stability is omething we haven't had in a while. Remember 2004, when 2B was an eternal Anderson-Womack-Luna-Hart platoon? Never again.
Mostly cause he is looking for a multi-year deal and I don't think the Cards will commit to a 35 year old with a history of injury trouble.
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Postby KoopaTroopa211 » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:29 pm

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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:49 pm



i was hoping no one would post that since it kind of depresses me. the cards are acting really cheap lately. i hope its because they plan to spend some money on an impact player. walt is talking like miles and bigbie have legitimate shots of being regulars :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P . bigbie could be a decent reserve. i'd pay miles to play elsewhere. how is he an upgrade over luna anyway? supposing king really did burn bridges and buy his ticket out of town, i figured given the stupid market for relievers we could have gotten someone back with a little more promise than bigbie and miles.

i hope grudz does well elsewhere. i would have liked him back for one more year anyway.

an interesting thought is that it seems the market is going a little crazy with trades and such early in the offseason. teams are looking to fill holes early. there could be some real free agent bargains, good non-tenders, and decent trade opportunities late in the offseason.


overall though, i have to give this part of the offseason plan a :-t
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Postby KoopaTroopa211 » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:10 pm

Miles isn't so bad (would have been nice to get a little more of a power hitter), but Bigbie's a joke. If we're lucky, maybe he's just filling the old utility spot of Mabry, and we're signing someone real to take over the outfield.
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:29 pm

miles is horrible. he is a 29 year old part time player for the rockies. his non adjusted ops was .661 last year. thats 100 points below part timer hector luna, and NOT adjusting for park factors. i just dont see how he has any value to us, and if he were sent to memphis he would be behind bo hart on the depth chart.
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:54 pm

There's got to be something big in the works if this is all we've gotten so far. :-[ I've been pretty much out of touch will all of humanity for the last week and a half so he may already be traded, but hopefully this means Marquis is on his way to ARI for Vazquez.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:58 pm

Arizona said they wouldn't pay any of Vaz's salary so that isn't going to happen.
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