Jack-In-A-Box wrote:Right Bronx. Denial is the word of the day for a Yankee fan. Are you kidding me that you don't think the Yankees have anything to do with why baseball is jacked up?
I never said that. I just find it ridiculous that you find a way to blame the Yankees for Rafael Furcal getting $13 million from the Dodgers, citing KYLE FARNSWORTH as your exmple.
Yeah, Ryan signed the richest RP contract in history. Why? Because a team like TOR has no shot at him because the Yankees would spend that much to make him a reliever like they wanted all along.
Do you have evidence that the Yankees would spend that much on Ryan? Obviously you don't, because it doesn't exist. In fact, every report and indication from the Ryan camp and the Yankees camp is that Ryan had no intention or interest in being a middle reliever/setup man in New York. He wanted to close. The Yankees WERE NOT Toronto's main competition in the Ryan sweepstakes. If you believe that they were, you are sadly mistaken.
20 Mill for Jeter. What do you expect Furcal wants?
This is just a stupid statement. Derek Jeter signed that deal before the 2001 season. In case your memory is a litte foggy, let me remind you of some other deals that were signed in that offseason...Alex Rodriguez ($25 million), Manny Ramirez ($20+ million), Mike Mussina ($19 million), Chan Ho Park (something ridiculous) and SEVERAL more. The market exploded in that offseason with the incredible A-Rod deal. That was the going rate for premeir players then. The market has changed. Comparing then to now is a moronic idea.
The Yankees didnt screw the market up in past years.. they screwed it up for the future of baseball. INCLUDING these outrageous contracts signed this year. Only a Yankee fan would disagree beacuse you are a Yankee fan and won't agree that baseball is forever changed because of how the Yankees spend money.
When did I say baseball has not been changed by it? In fact, I said that they had affected the market in past year. But guess what? The market changes. That's why Albert Pujols and Vlad Guerrero didn't get $25 million dollar deals like A-Rod, even though they are every bit as good. Thats' why Vlad got $14 and Pujols around the same.
Because the Yankees paid Derek Jeter $20 million 5 years ago, has little to no bearing on the Dodgers paying Furcal $13 million this year. It's ridiculous to assume so. Now, I'm not saying the Yankees have never and don't ever set the market, but look at some of the recent acquisitions. The market values have been set by many other teams in the past, and the Yankees have just followed suit. That's what happened with Farnsworth this year. Ryan got a mega-deal, and Wagner and Gordon followed with bloated contracts. Did you expect Farnsworth to ask for nothing? Obviously not. Every reliever will get overpaid this offseason. Just like most starters got overpaid last season as a result of the Mets giving Kris Benson a big deal at the beginning of the offseason.
Blaming Furcal's big deal on the Yankees' signing of Kyle Farnsworth is pathetic. I think you're just mad that the Dodgers offered that deal up, and Furcal left the Braves. IT'S NOT THE YANKEES FAULT THAT THE DODGERS OUTBID THEMSELVES FOR RAFAEL FURCAL. The Yankees deserve alot of blame for alot of things...worrying about Atlanta's precious shortstop isn't one of them.