The Reds generally want an arm and a leg in any deal. Which limits the probability that they will make any deal, but maybe they are realizing that they to win at this game called baseball you need pitching. Though does anybody really think the Reds are doing a good job? I mean they gave Eric Milton a huge contract last year. Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who were they bidding against???
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BronXBombers51 wrote:I thought the Red Sox were trading Manny because...he wants to be traded. I didn't know that they can't take his salary anymore.
Uh-huh, he apparently hates living in the Boston goldfish bowl and wants out at all costs. There's no doubt they don't want rid of him for baseball reasons. Two years of Manny at what he'll be getting is both better, and better value than anything they could get to replace him.
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Imagine Manny in Ciny's GAM, wow he'd hit over 60Hr easy. It'll never happen, but it would sure help his numbers. The Reds seem to be targeting Arroyo and I hear they are also trying to ship Milton to SD, spacious ballpark sure would help him.
Havok1517 wrote:Well, unlike Manny, Casey is a great club house presence. He is a far better hitter than Millar and would might excel at Fenway. But the Reds don't have room nor the money for him. Clement would be an upgrade from any of the pitchers besides Harang. Maybe they'll include Freel in a deal.
Great club house presence that costs 8.5M? Pass. How he is a far better hitter than Miller? Please explain.
If he is so great then why do you want them to trade him? Seems like you would be better to keep this great clubhouse leader and hitter, trade a bum like Wily Mo, Dunn and/or Griffey...
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According to Sporting News, Olerud is Plan D after Casey, Gonzalez or Overbay. The thought of 162 games of an ancient and crumbling Olreud would be enough to make most teams hit the panic button and take on Casey and his $8.5M.
I think by looking at both the stats of Millar (whom is a FA) and Casey you will see some similarities, but based on stats alone it is clearly evident that Casey is the better hitter and he was in the running for a gold glove last year (which I still can't believe). But The Reds can't afford him and why would they trade either Griff, Kearns, Dunn, or Pena when all 4 are better players than Casey. Look at thier stats and Casey has the edge. I mean he's almost won a batting title as well, Millar never. This really isn't an argument its a fact that Casey is the better hitter. NOW TRADE HIM!
Surprise! Reds need some pitching
Dayton Daily News (registration required): "On The Most Likely To Go List, place outfielders Pena and Kearns at the top. But there could be others, if O'Brien believes Griffey or Dunn or Casey or anybody else will bring over-the-top pitching. For example, Oakland is willing to trade Barry Zito for a power-hitting outfielder. Dunn? Kearns? Kearns and Pena?"
Pirates carrying new attitude to winter meetings
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: "Cincinnati first baseman Sean Casey, an Upper St. Clair native, is available. He is due $8.5 million next year, a figure the Pirates could afford, but the Reds covet a young arm in return."
Pirates eye Dodgers' Bradley, Saenz
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: "A team source confirmed yesterday the Pirates have interest in acquiring Milton Bradley, a talented but oft-troubled outfielder, and free-agent Olmedo Saenz, a platoon-type first baseman... Among the chatter concerning the Pirates was late-circulating word that they are planning to deal outfielder Craig Wilson and further confirmation that they are interested in trading for two prominent first basemen: Cincinnati's Sean Casey and Milwaukee's Lyle Overbay."
Casey available for right price
Pittsburgh Tribune Review: "First, by all indications Casey is available for the right price. That price apparently is pitching, of which the Pirates have plenty to offer in the likes of Kip Wells, Mark Redman or any one of the young and talented prospects not named Zach Duke, Paul Maholm, Oliver Perez or Mike Gonzalez."
Sox Are Listening, But Not Yet Dealing
Hartford Courant (registration required): "The official start to baseball's winter meetings Monday marked the unofficial countdown to Manny Ramirez's days with the Red Sox. By Thursday, when teams go their separate ways, Ramirez might well be gone from the Sox... The Red Sox talked with the Devil Rays about outfielder/first baseman Aubrey Huff and have expressed an interest in Reds first baseman Sean Casey and Brewers first baseman Lyle Overbay."