The Jury wrote:In hockey they're on skates and the one who loses balance and falls down loses.
Obviously don't know much about hockey fights. Believe me, if Player A lands 3-4 solid punches, then gets wrestled down because Player B doesn't want to continue to get beat on trading punches, then Player A certainly does not "lose" the fight. The takedowns hurt a hell of a lot less than the punches and have nothing to do with who "wins" or "loses". Of course, in hockey fights winning and losing is not the most important thing; showing up is what matters. Hockey fights take place for very specific reasons -- standing up for a teammate, sticking up for yourself, trying to change the momentum of a game, etc., and what counts most is having the willingness to do it whether you want to or not when the time calls for it.
The idea of instituting "hockey-style" rules with regards to fighting in baseball is an interesting concept, but not likely something we'll ever see. It would certainly cut down on the number of fights though if players knew they had to handle things themselves and wouldn't have 40 other guys charging in within seconds. Batters would think twice about charging and pitchers wouldn't be so eager to brush guys back knowing they wouldn't have the rest of the club jumping in right away. The problem would be breaking up the fights, as I can't see the umpire's union being willing to act like hockey linesmen and step in between guys trading punches.
The 9-on-1 argument completely misses the point by the way, as obviously the other players on the field would not be allowed to jump in. In hockey it's called the third-man in rule, in which anyone on the ice that jumps into an altercation once it's under way is ejected. That's separate from the suspension for leaving the bench to join an altercation.
Seriously though, I think our focus should be less on worrying about the fighting going on now in baseball and more on the utter lack of fighting in today's brutally boring Bettman Era (or rather Error) of NHL hockey. I mean, the Reds have already had more fights this week than the Red Wings had all of last season. Bring back the old Chuck Norris Division and the great old rivalries and we won't have to look to baseball for our fighting fix.
"I'm telling ya, he jumped us. Gloves off, stick down, no warning. He challenged the Chiefs. Called us names. But Dave was there."
"Dave's a killer."
"Yeah, Dave's a killer."
"Dave's a mess."