Any books out yet?(Shandler's, Prospectus, etc.) - Fantasy Baseball Cafe 2014 Fantasy Baseball Cafe
100% Deposit Bonus for Cafe Members!

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Any books out yet?(Shandler's, Prospectus, etc.)

Moderator: Baseball Moderators

Any books out yet?(Shandler's, Prospectus, etc.)

Postby Red Stripe » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:33 pm

I know Ron Shandler's book(The Forecaster?) and Prospectus normally come out early around this time but does anyone know when they will be out or if they are out yet?
Image
Red Stripe
General Manager
General Manager

Mock(ing) DrafterPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 4112
Joined: 12 Aug 2005
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Omaha

Postby bronxxbomber » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:38 pm

Baseball Prospectus hasn't come out yet, but you can preorder it at Amazon....
Image
Who says I can't be a Yankees and Mets fan???
bronxxbomber
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
CafeholicMock(ing) DrafterSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 3552
Joined: 7 Jan 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Watching Over Everything

Postby Red Stripe » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:42 pm

bronxxbomber wrote:Baseball Prospectus hasn't come out yet, but you can preorder it at Amazon....


Do they have this year's one on it though? The link takes me to the 04 book.
Image
Red Stripe
General Manager
General Manager

Mock(ing) DrafterPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 4112
Joined: 12 Aug 2005
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Omaha

Postby bronxxbomber » Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:22 pm

Image
Who says I can't be a Yankees and Mets fan???
bronxxbomber
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
CafeholicMock(ing) DrafterSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 3552
Joined: 7 Jan 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Watching Over Everything

Postby Red Stripe » Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:06 pm

bronxxbomber wrote:Sorry here you go. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/076113 ... e&n=283155


Thanks! ;-D
Image
Red Stripe
General Manager
General Manager

Mock(ing) DrafterPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 4112
Joined: 12 Aug 2005
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Omaha

Postby Steve-o » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:21 pm

Red Stripe wrote:
bronxxbomber wrote:Baseball Prospectus hasn't come out yet, but you can preorder it at Amazon....


Do they have this year's one on it though? The link takes me to the 04 book.


Gotta wait 'til February...


I think Shandler's is out, but I would not recommend using his projections. He has good previous years stats though.
Steve-o
Major League Manager
Major League Manager

User avatar

Posts: 1879
Joined: 7 May 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Finally back home. A sweet 15 mi from Miller Park.

Postby stevethumb » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:34 pm

shandler's baseball forecaster comes out december 10...and i like his insights into players' value
Image
stevethumb
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
CafeholicEagle Eye
Posts: 4041
Joined: 2 Dec 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: cloud 9

Postby Wozzyck » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:45 pm

Steve-o wrote: I think Shandler's is out, but I would not recommend using his projections. He has good previous years stats though.


Personally, Shandler's projections are perfectly acceptable; what's your beef? They're not nearly as systematic as PECOTA, but they certainly appear to be well thought-out and reasoned, having a foundation upon relevant indicators. What really should you ask of a projection system?
Wozzyck
Minor League Mentor
Minor League Mentor

User avatar

Posts: 468
Joined: 14 Jul 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball

Postby HOOTIE » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:07 am

Wozzyck wrote:Personally, Shandler's projections are perfectly acceptable; what's your beef?


Ron has interesting things to base judgement yourself. But for his extremely high prices, his projections are poor.

Beltran 303 43 hrs 114 rbis
Beltre 310 42 hrs 111 rbis
Bret Boone 28 hrs 89 rbis
Dye 255 14 hrs 55 rbis
Edmonds 40 hrs
Ensberg 16 hrs
Figgins 30 sb
Shawn Green 35 hrs 105 rbis
Griffey 19 hrs 52 rbis
A Jones 36 hrs 102 rbis
Morneau 32 hrs 109 rbis
Rowand 28 hrs
Sosa 37 hrs 94 rbis
Tejada 37 hrs 132 rbis

Carpenter 10-7 3.95 era
Clemens 3.50 era
Colon 4.26 era
Foulke 43 saves 2.36 era
Fuentes 8 saves 4.34 era
Garcia 4.12 era
Garland 4.68 era
RJ 2.94 era
Lackey 4.21 era
Myers 4.76 era
Patterson 4.66 era
Rogers 4.80 era
Schilling 3.39 era
Seo 4.34 era
Washburn 4.49 era
Wickman 15 saves 4.19 era
Willis 13-9 3.81 era
Smells Like Teen Spirit
HOOTIE
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicResponse TeamFantasy ExpertCafe Ranker
Posts: 15115
(Past Year: 297)
Joined: 12 Jan 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Pearl Jam country, right next door to Nirvana, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains.

Postby Wozzyck » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:01 am

HOOTIE wrote:
Wozzyck wrote:Personally, Shandler's projections are perfectly acceptable; what's your beef?


Ron has interesting things to base judgement yourself. But for his extremely high prices, his projections are poor.


ANY projection system is going to be off on a good number of players; it's the nature of the beast. This list doesn't (and shouldn't) sway me much one way or the other. (The Sosa prediction is the only really questionable one in the bunch; if anything, the fact that Fuentes, Wickman, and Seo have been trotted out to lengthen the list, speaks to his favor.) What's most important is that the predictions are based upon something demonstrably relevant (and possibly ignored by others), even if it's information that increases the accuracy of one's projections a tiny bit (and that's all that one can really hope for). If you find a prediction system without outliers, you'll be a very wealthy man/woman.
Wozzyck
Minor League Mentor
Minor League Mentor

User avatar

Posts: 468
Joined: 14 Jul 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball

Next

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests

Forums Articles & Tips Sleepers Rankings Leagues


Today's Games
Thursday, Aug. 21
(All times are EST, weather icons show forecast for game time)

Houston at NY Yankees
(1:05 pm)
Cleveland at Minnesota
(1:10 pm)
Detroit at Tampa Bay
(1:10 pm)
indoors
Arizona at Washington
(4:05 pm)
LA Angels at Boston
(7:10 pm)
Atlanta at Cincinnati
(7:10 pm)
San Francisco at Chi Cubs
(8:05 pm)
San Diego at LA Dodgers
(10:10 pm)

  • Fantasy Baseball
  • Article Submissions
  • Privacy Statement
  • Site Survey 
  • Contact