Any books out yet?(Shandler's, Prospectus, etc.)

[Red Stripe]

I know Ron Shandler's book(The Forecaster?) and Prospectus normally come out early around this time but does anyone know when they will be out or if they are out yet?

[bronxxbomber]

Baseball Prospectus hasn't come out yet, but you can preorder it at Amazon....

[Red Stripe]

Baseball Prospectus hasn't come out yet, but you can preorder it at Amazon....

Do they have this year's one on it though? The link takes me to the 04 book.

[bronxxbomber]

Sorry here you go. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/076113 ... e&n=283155

[Red Stripe]

Sorry here you go. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/076113 ... e&n=283155

Thanks!

[Steve-o]

Baseball Prospectus hasn't come out yet, but you can preorder it at Amazon....

Do they have this year's one on it though? The link takes me to the 04 book.

Gotta wait 'til February...


I think Shandler's is out, but I would not recommend using his projections. He has good previous years stats though.

[stevethumb]

shandler's baseball forecaster comes out december 10...and i like his insights into players' value

[Wozzyck]

I think Shandler's is out, but I would not recommend using his projections. He has good previous years stats though.

Personally, Shandler's projections are perfectly acceptable; what's your beef? They're not nearly as systematic as PECOTA, but they certainly appear to be well thought-out and reasoned, having a foundation upon relevant indicators. What really should you ask of a projection system?

[HOOTIE]

Personally, Shandler's projections are perfectly acceptable; what's your beef?

Ron has interesting things to base judgement yourself. But for his extremely high prices, his projections are poor.

Beltran 303 43 hrs 114 rbis
Beltre 310 42 hrs 111 rbis
Bret Boone 28 hrs 89 rbis
Dye 255 14 hrs 55 rbis
Edmonds 40 hrs
Ensberg 16 hrs
Figgins 30 sb
Shawn Green 35 hrs 105 rbis
Griffey 19 hrs 52 rbis
A Jones 36 hrs 102 rbis
Morneau 32 hrs 109 rbis
Rowand 28 hrs
Sosa 37 hrs 94 rbis
Tejada 37 hrs 132 rbis

Carpenter 10-7 3.95 era
Clemens 3.50 era
Colon 4.26 era
Foulke 43 saves 2.36 era
Fuentes 8 saves 4.34 era
Garcia 4.12 era
Garland 4.68 era
RJ 2.94 era
Lackey 4.21 era
Myers 4.76 era
Patterson 4.66 era
Rogers 4.80 era
Schilling 3.39 era
Seo 4.34 era
Washburn 4.49 era
Wickman 15 saves 4.19 era
Willis 13-9 3.81 era

[Wozzyck]

Personally, Shandler's projections are perfectly acceptable; what's your beef?

Ron has interesting things to base judgement yourself. But for his extremely high prices, his projections are poor.

ANY projection system is going to be off on a good number of players; it's the nature of the beast. This list doesn't (and shouldn't) sway me much one way or the other. (The Sosa prediction is the only really questionable one in the bunch; if anything, the fact that Fuentes, Wickman, and Seo have been trotted out to lengthen the list, speaks to his favor.) What's most important is that the predictions are based upon something demonstrably relevant (and possibly ignored by others), even if it's information that increases the accuracy of one's projections a tiny bit (and that's all that one can really hope for). If you find a prediction system without outliers, you'll be a very wealthy man/woman.