Toronto signs BJ

[BronXBombers51]

I highy doubt the Jays flat-out outbid the Yankees. Ryan didn't want to be a setup man. That's what it all comes down to. He wanted to close and that position was not available on the Yankees roster. Thus, he went somewhere else. I doubt the Yankees were even involved.

[nsulham]

I highy doubt the Jays flat-out outbid the Yankees. Ryan didn't want to be a setup man. That's what it all comes down to. He wanted to close and that position was not available on the Yankees roster. Thus, he went somewhere else. I doubt the Yankees were even involved.

Maybe they weren't involved but even if they were, they likely still would have been outbid. Think of it this way...the Yankees aren't going to match that Jays offer, not when if they do, it gives BJ a contract equal or a bit less off of what Mariano is making (I think). There's no way in hell they would pay BJ more or the same to set up than what they're paying Mo to close. If they gave BJ the same or more, or even slightly less, to set up than what they're giving Mo then to me, that's a slap in the face to Mo and I would think they wouldn't even think about approaching that situation.

But it's all moot because the Jays went above and beyond to get a vital piece that they needed. Nice haul Jays

[blankman]

I highy doubt the Jays flat-out outbid the Yankees. Ryan didn't want to be a setup man. That's what it all comes down to. He wanted to close and that position was not available on the Yankees roster. Thus, he went somewhere else. I doubt the Yankees were even involved.

Maybe they weren't involved but even if they were, they likely still would have been outbid. Think of it this way...the Yankees aren't going to match that Jays offer, not when if they do, it gives BJ a contract equal or a bit less off of what Mariano is making (I think). There's no way in hell they would pay BJ more or the same to set up than what they're paying Mo to close. If they gave BJ the same or more, or even slightly less, to set up than what they're giving Mo then to me, that's a slap in the face to Mo and I would think they wouldn't even think about approaching that situation.

But it's all moot because the Jays went above and beyond to get a vital piece that they needed. Nice haul Jays

Mariano made $10.5M last season. It wouldn't have made a difference.

[stevethumb]

That is a massive amount of money for a guy who has only closed one year in the majors, but I had Toronto pegged for SP and a big bopper bat help this year, not a closer. Oh well my Drays will still finish ahead of them in the AL East this year

And we'll be paying Chad Orvella a salary that's equal to about a couple of weeks of Ryan's salary. That is, after we trade Baez which I'm crossing my fingers for. Dunno who we're going to get now that the Mets dealt Petit...

...maybe dbaez to the phillies (when the mets sign bwagner) for some young arms (gfloyd-chamels-one of the whitesox prospects) ?

[RocketsDWM]

Ryan, a left-hander who turns 30 next month, is getting the largest deal given to a reliever, topping the $39.99 million, four-year contract Mariano Rivera had with the New York Yankees from 2001-04. Rivera just completed the first season of a $21 million, two-year deal with the Yankees

He is given the largest deal for a reliever, yet Mariano is making more. This is from ESPN.com. Maybe I am missing something.

[Amazinz]

BJ Ryan is getting the most guaranteed money ever in a single contract (for a closer). Mo gets paid more per year but the total contract wasn't this large.

[RocketsDWM]

BJ Ryan is getting the most guaranteed money ever in a single contract (for a closer). Mo gets paid more per year but the total contract wasn't this large.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Subversive]

[quote="RocketsDWM] I think the Jays should go after Washburn or Millwood instead of Burnett and perhaps then they would have enough money to go after Giles.[/quote]

I like this idea a lot. If they signed Giles, then maybe trade Hinske or HIllenbrand for a solid reliever, they actually might compete....

[mweir145]

I like this idea a lot. If they signed Giles, then maybe trade Hinske or HIllenbrand for a solid reliever, they actually might compete....

I think the relief corps are the best part of the team right now, and trading Hillenbrand (who was the best hitter in a lackluster offense last season) for more RP's wouldn't be the way to go. I'd be all for trading Hinske for ANYTHING, though.

[Subversive]

To say that Hillenbrand was the best hitter may be true, but that doesn't mean he's a good hitter. He's pretty much an empty batting average. I think Hinske might bounce back this year, and Hillenbrand has a lot more trade value, so I'd go the other way, personally.