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Postby RynMan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:40 pm

Value = Hafner

If I had to pick one or the other with one pick. It would be Derek Lee.
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Postby baseball6791 » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:50 pm

I agree completely with Yoda here. I think that DLee won't come close to last year and Hafner will have better numbers overall anyways. I also think that you can get Hafner a couple of rounds later so he is much better value. the only thing that I don't like is his Util only eligibilty in some leagues.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:50 pm

I think Lee will put up better numbers but Hafner can be had later and will be the better value pick IMO.
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Postby LCBOY » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:00 am

No way Lee should go "near first round". His 2005 season was way out of norm for him. I'm taking Hafner in 2006.
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Postby Half Massed » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:16 am

I'd rather have Hafner. He'll put up better power and can be had later on.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:21 am

Doesn't really matter with either of these guys. In my league neither would make it out of the 3rd round. I really doubt that people will sleep on Hafner anymore because his OPS has hovered around 1.000 for the last 2 seasons and he has a lot of young studs on that team. Come on guys we all know that every magizine and website in the world will tout Hafner as some kid of sleeper who no one realizes puts up great numbers (here at the cafe no otherwise). Anyway, what Lee did last year was amazing. Maybe I'm a hater because one of best friends (and rivals :-b ) had him but I don't see his avg staying that high again. I personally will go with Hafner because I like his patience and his lineup more than Lee's.
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Postby davidmarver » Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:22 pm

Two things to remember:
- Drafting Hafner gives you very little flexibility for the rest of the draft.
- Because Hafner walks so much, misses time during interleague play, and has nagging injuries, his .AVG won't help as much in a roto league as players you'd draft around the same time as him.

I won't be seen drafting either of them this year. B-)
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Postby RynMan » Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:33 pm

Don't forget the 10-20 steals Lee gives you....
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Postby DK » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:06 pm

Yoda wrote:http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/leede02.shtml

Which year looks drastically different from all the others?


1997.

I'd take Lee (like someone said already) due to his stolen base edge, but considering where they're going to be drafted I'd probably rather have Hafner later.
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Postby Amazinz » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:11 pm

RynMan wrote:Value = Hafner

If I had to pick one or the other with one pick. It would be Derek Lee.

Exactly how I feel. I probably won't get Lee next year because he'll go too high. But given the choice of the two I'd take Lee.
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