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by **Red Stripe** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:46 pm

Whoa just saw it on Rotoworld then, I thought this was just a rumor or something. I have a gut feeling this is going to hurt the Sox, I think Thome's done for, he just doesn't have it anymore.

by **Red Stripe** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:48 pm

And yes I agree about Ryan Howard, I'm saying he could be a top 10 1st basemen this year and should be taken somewhere from the 7th-8th round IMO.

by **JohnR** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:56 pm

rotoworld reporting now that deal also includes 2 LHP prospects, Daniel Haigwood and Gio Gonzalez....I think this is MUCH more than most phillies fans expected to get on a return of thome....very nice for the phillies if true

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/player ... LB&id=4762

by **perlick29** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:59 pm

Glorious trade if true for the Phillies. Bye Kenny Lofton. If they can find a way to resign Wagner this is a good looking lineup:

Rollins
Rowand
Abreu
Burrell
Utley/Howard
Howard/Utley
Bell-still to be determined
Lieberthal-still to be determined.

That's solid. ;-D

by **El Gaupo** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:00 pm

giants! wrote:Ya just heard it when i got home.
Phillies Give:
Thome
12 million
White Sox give:
Rowand

This deal should increase the fantasy value of
Howard
Thome
Anderson( new chicago center fielder)

Decreases:
Rowand
Konerko

This seems like a good deal for both teams. I think Anderson is ready to take over in CF

by **Yoda** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:00 pm

Phillies wasted a lot of money tho... That could be made up for what Howard does. I think he is the real deal but I also think that he will struggle a bit next season with the expectations and adjustment.

It was a great deal considering the Phillies plugged a big hole (although I'm not a big fan of Rowand) and had an excellent back up plan.

by **El Gaupo** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:08 pm

Yoda wrote:Phillies wasted a lot of money tho... That could be made up for what Howard does. I think he is the real deal but I also think that he will struggle a bit next season with the expectations and adjustment.

It was a great deal considering the Phillies plugged a big hole (although I'm not a big fan of Rowand) and had an excellent back up plan.

I keep wondering if Howard will continue to crush or if he will have a follow up season like Morneau's

by **clevername** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:15 pm

Red Stripe wrote:I think Thome's done for, he just doesn't have it anymore.

I'm sorry, I keep seeing this comment around here and can't help but laugh.

One season filled with injuries. One.

Weighed against how many 40+ HR 110+ RBI seasons in a row?

Yeah, he's 35. He's also one of the most prolific power hitters of our time and is a professional hitter who now gets to DH to rest his body. I picked him up for Kerry Wood last week and couldn't be happier.

by **HiddenIdentity** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:44 pm

Booo. Phillies are supposed to be getting worse as the Mets get better. :-t

by **BronXBombers51** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:42 pm

clevername wrote:
Red Stripe wrote:I think Thome's done for, he just doesn't have it anymore.

I'm sorry, I keep seeing this comment around here and can't help but laugh.

One season filled with injuries. One.

Weighed against how many 40+ HR 110+ RBI seasons in a row?

Yeah, he's 35. He's also one of the most prolific power hitters of our time and is a professional hitter who now gets to DH to rest his body. I picked him up for Kerry Wood last week and couldn't be happier.

And it's been widely known that he's had a bad back for a long time. Cleveland thought it was a ticking timebomb when they let him go to Philly a few years ago.

I'll file Thome under bust. I'll be happy to eat crow if he puts up 40-100 again, but I don't think it will happen.

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