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Postby Trot Nixon » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:40 pm

Thinking about acquiring him in a trade, but I want to know the overall consensus on how you think he will do next year. Was this year a fluke or is he really that good?
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:45 pm

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Postby RynMan » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:21 pm

I would recommend checking his minor league track record to determine whether or not he has performed at aimilar levels like this in the past.
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Postby J35J » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:58 pm

RynMan wrote:I would recommend checking his minor league track record to determine whether or not he has performed at aimilar levels like this in the past.


He never had an OPS above .764 until his final AAA season. And the fact that he hasn't ever had a good BB/K ratio with a terrible OBP I think he will decline. There are only a handful of players that can have a terrible OBP and BB/K ratio and be real good players.

.270 21 75 70 2 - This seems more likely but he has plenty of years ahead of him to get back to his '05 #'s.

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Postby RynMan » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:12 pm

J35J wrote:
RynMan wrote:I would recommend checking his minor league track record to determine whether or not he has performed at aimilar levels like this in the past.


He never had an OPS above .764 until his final AAA season. And the fact that he hasn't ever had a good BB/K ratio with a terrible OBP I think he will decline. There are only a handful of players that can have a terrible OBP and BB/K ratio and be real good players.

.270 21 75 70 2 - This seems more likely but he has plenty of years ahead of him to get back to his '05 #'s.

Jason


I think you are right. I would treat his 05 as a fluke until he shows he can do it again.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:44 pm

He seems like a good player. His minor league numbers right before he joined the Rays were pretty good. I don't know if his numbers will repeat next season, but I believe he's a lock for 20Hrs and 85rbis. I think his avg will drop if he doesn't learn to draw some walks soon. Even if he doesn't a 23 year old guy like him has a bright future.
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Postby wrveres » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:31 am

I know everybody is impressed with his 28 homers last season, but I would be remiss if I didn't point out that he had a grand total of 40 HR's in over 2300 minor league AB's ... and he wasn't big doubles hitter in the minors either. A minor league SLG% under .400 should raise some eyebrows too. Where did all of this power come from?

I personally would not be trading for him, as his value is at its highest right now, and that is a cardinal sin when trading. I also will not be targeting him next season either, as he will be very overrated.
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Postby George_Foreman » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:37 am

sage advice. ;-D
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Postby Trot Nixon » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:00 pm

wrveres wrote:I know everybody is impressed with his 28 homers last season, but I would be remiss if I didn't point out that he had a grand total of 40 HR's in over 2300 minor league AB's ... and he wasn't big doubles hitter in the minors either. A minor league SLG% under .400 should raise some eyebrows too. Where did all of this power come from?

I personally would not be trading for him, as his value is at its highest right now, and that is a cardinal sin when trading. I also will not be targeting him next season either, as he will be very overrated.
Thats what I was looking for, thank you ;-D
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Postby Yoda » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:06 pm

It's is easy to assume Cantu will automatically improve upon 05 but as everyone has said, I think he will be very overrated in 06. He did seem to turn things around starting 04 so his power might be real.

But his plate discipline will drag down his average considerably. He doesn't run either so at best he will be a 3 category player in fantasy.
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