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Postby bronxxbomber » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:47 am

Yoda wrote:Jeremy Hermida - .280, 18 HR, 75 RBI, 75 R, 15 SB
Matt Cain - 4.25 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 150 K, 9 W
Francisco Liriano - 4.50 ERA, 1.44 WHIP, 100 K, 5 W (I have doubts about him keeping his job)
Scott Baker - 4.00 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 125 K, 10 W


I really like these predictions.
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Postby carter » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:23 am

just wild guesses

Hermida - will slump at some point and need to make adjustments in his first full season, will finish nicely overall for a rookie .. 265, 12 hr, 19 sb, 70 runs, 59 rbi

Cain - up and down struggles.. 4.30 era which is decent, 1.40 whip will hurt, but will have some really good hot streaks

Liriano - slow start, will finish with great season out of the bullpen, with low whip and high k/9..

Baker - has most experience out of the 4 .. i think he can easily match what Danny Haren and Joe Blanton did this year.. but with more k's ..

sleeper pick ---> paul malholm, watch out
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Postby Yoda » Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:00 am

baseball6791 wrote:
SCARPARIELLI wrote:So you guys are saying Matt Cain will be as valuable as Josh Beckett?


He definitely has the potential to be, especially playing in a significantly weaker division, he will have Barry back next year hopefully which should provide some run support. He also doesn't carry half the injury risk that blister boy does.


NOt sure if Cain has Beckett's level of talent. At similar stage of their careers, Beckett had much better control. But his development has been limited due to injury problems. I think Cain will be overvalued going into the draft due to the fact that he pitched well above expectations after a mediocre year at AAA.
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Postby Music2004Man » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:27 pm

I like Hermida, Liriano and Baker for next year but I think that Cain is going to take longer to develop because of his control issues. Major league batters will adjust next year and I think his WHIP could be close to 1.40.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:36 pm

Dan Charette wrote:Johnny Gomes should also be mrntioned B-)




no he shouldn't either... please drays trade him this offseason while he the next "great" thing ;-D
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Postby Dr. StrangeGlove » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:17 pm

I like Liriano more than Cain. Liriano has a good makeup and I expect at least 10 wins. Cain is a little wild with his high K/BB rate. I think Baker is the most polished of these pitchers even though he doesn't have as good of stuff. I also think Hermida has at least 20/20 stuff.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:19 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:
Dan Charette wrote:Johnny Gomes should also be mrntioned B-)




no he shouldn't either... please drays trade him this offseason while he the next "great" thing ;-D


Hey, i'm a Gomes fan. I've rooted for him the last coiple of seasons. Anyways hermida, cain, liriano, and baker are all rookies I think.
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Postby brandnew » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:37 pm

I don't get your hatred for Gomes... he's always put up good power numbers in the minors, and he's put up good walk numbers, what shows that he's not as good as he was last year?
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Postby Pedantic » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:27 pm

brandnew wrote:I don't get your hatred for Gomes... he's always put up good power numbers in the minors, and he's put up good walk numbers, what shows that he's not as good as he was last year?


He might have power, but it's nothing particularly special. The average will not be pretty, that's for certain.
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Postby davidmarver » Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:38 am

I was holding out on posting this, but I thought it was a little selfish not to mention him:

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