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Postby Yoda » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:11 pm

What are your thoughts on the following youngsters? What type of numbers are reasonable to expect?

Jeremy Hermida
Matt Cain
Francisco Liriano
Scott Baker

I'll post my prediction after I see some of yours.
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Postby J35J » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:59 pm

Hermida - .285 22 88 80 6

Cain - 170IP 12-7 120K 3.45ERA 1.15Whip

Liriano - 170IP 11-7 145K 3.80ERA 1.18Whip

Baker - I think will probably be up and down with the big league club. Still a year away for fantasy purposes.

* This was just a quick look at things, I don't really have my final rankings/projections done yet.

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Postby davidmarver » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:33 pm

Reasonable expectations are fairly conservative, especially with youthful players like the ones you posted.

I think Hermida is safe for .280, 10 Hr, 65rbi, 65 runs, 10 steals.

That's what I guarantee, provided he doesn't get hurt, granted they are low figures.

Second year pitchers are normally a lot harder to predict: look at Greinke last season...I'd let someone else chance on them.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:52 pm

hermida could easily put up 20-20 numbers with a average nearing 300 this year.... a future fantasy stud in the making for sure.....
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Postby Dan Charette » Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:01 pm

Robinson Cano and Johnny Gomes should also be mrntioned B-)
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Postby baseball6791 » Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:18 pm

For Cain I'd say something like:

180 IP, 13-9, 142 K, 3.46 ERA, 1.17 WHIP
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Postby SCARPARIELLI » Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:24 pm

So you guys are saying Matt Cain will be as valuable as Josh Beckett?
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Postby baseball6791 » Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:27 pm

SCARPARIELLI wrote:So you guys are saying Matt Cain will be as valuable as Josh Beckett?


He definitely has the potential to be, especially playing in a significantly weaker division, he will have Barry back next year hopefully which should provide some run support. He also doesn't carry half the injury risk that blister boy does.
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Re: Impact 2nd Year Players

Postby Yoda » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:13 am

Jeremy Hermida - .280, 18 HR, 75 RBI, 75 R, 15 SB
Matt Cain - 4.25 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 150 K, 9 W
Francisco Liriano - 4.50 ERA, 1.44 WHIP, 100 K, 5 W (I have doubts about him keeping his job)
Scott Baker - 4.00 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 125 K, 10 W
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Postby brandnew » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:19 am

At this point, I think Liriano has a far better chance of succeeding next year than Cain because he doesn't walk nearly as many people... Cain's walk rate was ridiculous this past year, and that will kill you.

Anyways

Cain 175 IP, 4.10, 145 K's, 1.25 WHIP

Liriano 180 IP, 3.80, 170 K's, 1.15 WHIP

Hermida .295, 19 HR, 15 SB, 75 RBI, 100 R (Sick OBP)
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