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Postby PlayingWithFire » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:38 pm

StlSluggers wrote:Granted, he wasn't slamming balls out of the park or driving in runs, but he batted, what, .290+ with a respectable OBP, and he scored a fair amount of runs, correct? I wouldn't say that's sub-par. He certainly was helping his team when he came to the plate.


I agree.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:41 pm

StlSluggers wrote:Granted, he wasn't slamming balls out of the park or driving in runs, but he batted, what, .290+ with a respectable OBP, and he scored a fair amount of runs, correct? I wouldn't say that's sub-par. He certainly was helping his team when he came to the plate.


NL: lgOBP = .326, lgSLG = .414
Taveras: OBP = .325, SLG = .341

I'd say that is sub-par.
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:55 pm

I was really impressed with Howard when I saw him play in a game I attended in Philly. I suppose Philly fans have something to be happy about now (especially with the Eagles losing once again this weekend... boo hoo). So, what happens to Thome? No one's speaking on the issue right now, but they have to let him go. Howard has so much potential, perhaps over 40 hrs next year?

Chase Utley's name has appeared in trade talks, any speculation on that?

Anyway, congrats to Street and Howard, I think they both deserved it... and yes, I agree Tavarez was a very close second, especially if you look at the whole year argument. But Howard was just a menace!
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Postby George_Foreman » Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:20 pm

i'm with pogo on this one. the NL award needed to go to either howard or francouer. taveras had a decent year for a #7 or 8 hitter. he's a plus defensively and he can steal bases pretty well, but that OBP is weak for a top-of-the-order player, and his sluging is just dismal.

i think RoY was the most accurately awarded prize this year for MLB. ;-D

edit: i mean, there were 9 catchers in the NL with better batting numbers than taveras this year.... and i'll take 22 HR over 50 (or however many) SBs.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:15 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:Granted, he wasn't slamming balls out of the park or driving in runs, but he batted, what, .290+ with a respectable OBP, and he scored a fair amount of runs, correct? I wouldn't say that's sub-par. He certainly was helping his team when he came to the plate.


NL: lgOBP = .326, lgSLG = .414
Taveras: OBP = .325, SLG = .341

I'd say that is sub-par.


i agree with that. howard definitely was the roy in my eyes.
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Postby eftda » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:24 pm

So far the writers are 2-2 ;-D
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Postby baseball6791 » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:57 pm

Good choices here ;-D
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Postby Half Massed » Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:59 pm

I agree with both of these. ;-D
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Postby Iconoclastic » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:19 pm

Ha, I got it right.
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Postby HOOTIE » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:56 pm

StlSluggers wrote:Granted, he wasn't slamming balls out of the park or driving in runs, but he batted, what, .290+ with a respectable OBP, and he scored a fair amount of runs, correct? I wouldn't say that's sub-par. He certainly was helping his team when he came to the plate.


How much? His .325 oba is sub par. His .666 ops is really subpar. His RC/27 was 4.23, under league average. Taveras wasn't the choice. Nice to see the writer's with nailing Street, and Howard/Francouer were pretty close. Nice job.
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