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Postby kimchi_chigae » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:01 pm

the d-rays offense was already pretty good this year, finishing 3rd in BA in the MLB. ;-D

they had a pretty good second half of the season and should do a lot better than 67 wins next season.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:07 pm

Pretty sure that Huff will not play for them next year.

So subtract Huff and add Baldellin and Young. Good looking offence but no pitching to speak of. So they will lose a lot of games 9-7. This makes them good fantasy prospects though.
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Postby Music2004Man » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:03 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:They aren't going anywhere without a pitching upgrade. I have to think Huff, Gomes and Gaithright are available right now for some decent pitching.


They should definitely be able to get some solid pitching value for these guys if they decide to make some moves. There is some more pitching in the system behind Kazmir if I remember correctly. One guy that I remember specifically is Niemann. You can't win the AL East with all players under 27 though. At some point they are going to have to bite the bullet and sign some solid free agents.
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Postby blankman » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:19 pm

They still can't pitch.

Tons of offensive talent, but IMO, they're still screwed for awhile.
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:58 pm

bronxxbomber wrote:yeah, the rays will be able to compete more in a year or so. the offense will be fine, but they'll really make strides when they draft and steal[kazmir] more pitching talent.



I'm still sore over Kazmir too bronx. Damn you steve phillips!
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:02 pm

You guys sure that they can get pitching help quickly enough(before any of these player gets expensive?)
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Postby dannyolbb » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:30 pm

Coppermine wrote:
bronxxbomber wrote:yeah, the rays will be able to compete more in a year or so. the offense will be fine, but they'll really make strides when they draft and steal[kazmir] more pitching talent.



I'm still sore over Kazmir too bronx. Damn you steve phillips!


I thought it was a Jim Duquette move.
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Postby baseball6791 » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:51 pm

The D-Rays have the offensive talent and core players there to do something if management would spend some money on pitching. I could see the being serious contenders in the AL East about 3-5 years from now.
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Postby George_Foreman » Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:02 pm

i'm convinced that if they wanted to, the rays could contend next year by spending an additional $15-20 million next year:

1) sign burnett
2) sign millwood
3) send away delmon young for barry zito
4) sign a couple decent MRs

bam. instant contender for the wild card if not the division.

their offense is already top-notch, and if they could just get a few more decent arms to bring in around kazmir, they'd be set. baez will be fine as closer, and their bullpin wasn't that bad last year.

anyhow, they could probably do all 4 things i mentioned above and still have a payroll about half that of the redsox and 1/4-1/3 of the yankees.

now, i'm not saying it would be in their long-term interest to send away delmon for zito (or to sign burnett and millwood.... both have injury histories and have bounced between elite and mediocrity), i'm just saying that they could do it easily.
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Postby baseball6791 » Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:08 pm

George_Foreman wrote:i'm convinced that if they wanted to, the rays could contend next year by spending an additional $15-20 million next year:

1) sign burnett
2) sign millwood
3) send away delmon young for barry zito
4) sign a couple decent MRs

bam. instant contender for the wild card if not the division.

their offense is already top-notch, and if they could just get a few more decent arms to bring in around kazmir, they'd be set. baez will be fine as closer, and their bullpin wasn't that bad last year.

anyhow, they could probably do all 4 things i mentioned above and still have a payroll about half that of the redsox and 1/4-1/3 of the yankees.

now, i'm not saying it would be in their long-term interest to send away delmon for zito (or to sign burnett and millwood.... both have injury histories and have bounced between elite and mediocrity), i'm just saying that they could do it easily.


There is no way I'd trade Delmon for Zito if I was the D-Rays. I think that even by signing just Burnett and Millwood they could be contenders. The top of their rotation would be Burnett-Millwood-Kazmir which is pretty solid.
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