ETHICS - HOLDING KEEPERS TO "TRADE" BACK

[PlayingWithFire]

Hmm if his 8th best player is better than what you can get at your 1st round pick, accept the trade and dont trade back. You have every right not to trade him back, and he will then learn his lesson really fast.

YOU DON'T WANT A BAD RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR COMMISH.

[Lofunzo]

I would just tell him that I will take 1 of his studs and then "forget" the details and keep him. [/i]

[stumpak]

I do not see this as collusion so long as league rules do not prevent it. He is clearly willing to give something up to make this happen, in this case a #1 pick. How can it be collusion when someone is giving something to get something and the type of transaction is not prohibited by the league rules.

If you do not think the price he is paying is high enough, the negotiate. If it is a good keeper, it shoudl be worth more than a #1 pick. He will have to drop the player otherwise, so you have all the leverage. But don't cry collusion when the real issue is that you not negotiating well.

[CubsFan7724]

Do it, and then don't give him back his player. What is he going to do? Complain to the league that you failed to fufill your end of the collusion bargain? It'll certainly teach him a lesson. If he locks you out, you just bring out the details of what he wanted to do.

[coleminer]

After discussions with the other owner, he wanted me to trade my 8th keeper spot to him to hold Kotchman for one of his non-keepers (TBD - Gagne, Clemens, or Kent). It is a move to create parity plus allow him to keep Casey (he's a huge Angels fan).

As long as it is not prohibited (it is not) and the details are known by all league members at the time of the trade, it seems to be on the right side of ethical to me.

Thanks for all the input ...