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Postby jecarney64 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:33 pm

This is very shocking, seems like a power struggle between Theo and Luccino, and Larry has won. Maybe Theo is getting out at the right time, but the yankees don't seem to be building a dynasty either - Kevin Brown... Aaron Small...an aging Randy Johnson....

Theo rebuilt the Sox farm system, got them a World Championship and is an up and coming talent. I don't think he will sit for a season, I see the Dodgers or somone grabbing him.
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Postby soxfan364 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:45 pm

I too, am in shock.... :~(
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Postby curious_george_43545 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:57 pm

Nice choice Red Sox :-t
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Postby stevethumb » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:38 pm

RocketsDWM wrote:Please. Spare me the "Theo's fault" theory. He only brought a championship to Boston for the first time in 86 yrs and has devevloped a farm system that is already beginning to pay dividends at the major league level (Papelbon, DelCarmen, soon to be there: Craig Hansen, Pedroia, Lester). He also signed terrific free agents, mainly Ortiz and Foulke who provided the spark for the title run (terrific value in Ortiz who just resigned for not a huge sum). And I am still not sure how he went broke for 2004 when he basically had the same salary in 2003. Its not like the Sox spent 210 mil that season and broke the bank.

This off-season:
Damon for 9-10 mil is not a bad deal at all. If he costs more than that, then forget him. For this day and age in the FA market, thats not a bad deal for a CF who plays everyday and is a great leadoff hitter.

Timlin will cost them? A one yr deal worth 2 mil I believe? Thats going to cost them? He was only one of the premier set up guys in the league.

And Manny will not leave- this happens every off-season, MLB fans should know that by now.

If we can get Wagner or Ryan to go along with Foulke this season, the bullpen should be fine. As well, Papebon will most likely join the rotation along with Miller again, add to that another quality arm such as Kenny Rogers or Washburn and u have a talented rotation headed by Schill.
....let's not get carried away w/"theo built the farm"...lester and delcarmen and hanley and delgado were already there when theo was hired nov 2002...the red sox are a mess
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Postby go_jays_go » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:42 pm

That came as a suprise. 8-o
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Postby Mookie4ever » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:43 pm

Who cares? They just better stay away from Riccardi. He already said no to them once, I hope that he says no again.
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Postby bigken117 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:51 pm

wow, I'm stunned. He quit because of Lucchino though, not because he wanted to save his legacy.
Saying the Sox went for broke in 04 is asinine. What, we traded Nomar?
How are Damon and Manny's contracts Theo's fault? He didn't sign either of them.
There are at least 28 teams who need a bullpen upgrade and another starter.
Timlin already resigned.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:53 pm

jecarney64 wrote:This is very shocking, seems like a power struggle between Theo and Luccino, and Larry has won. Maybe Theo is getting out at the right time, but the yankees don't seem to be building a dynasty either - Kevin Brown... Aaron Small...an aging Randy Johnson....

Theo rebuilt the Sox farm system, got them a World Championship and is an up and coming talent. I don't think he will sit for a season, I see the Dodgers or somone grabbing him.


LOL...Come on, all the pieces are in place for another Yankee Dynasty. Torre, Guidry (in all likelihood), Kerrigan (maybe), Mazzilli, Emslie, Billy Conners, Newman. With leadership like that all under the supreme command of Cashman how can it not succeed? Cashman has to be compared to a baseball equivalent of Julius Caesar tactically, strategically and politically. His long term insight is undisputed. And his latest contract extension the equivalent of crossing the Rubicon. And he has displayed a brilliant mind showing a Hannibal-like innovation.

...OH, and I am selling bridges in Brooklyn too.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:00 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:
jecarney64 wrote:This is very shocking, seems like a power struggle between Theo and Luccino, and Larry has won. Maybe Theo is getting out at the right time, but the yankees don't seem to be building a dynasty either - Kevin Brown... Aaron Small...an aging Randy Johnson....

Theo rebuilt the Sox farm system, got them a World Championship and is an up and coming talent. I don't think he will sit for a season, I see the Dodgers or somone grabbing him.


LOL...Come on, all the pieces are in place for another Yankee Dynasty. Torre, Guidry (in all likelihood), Kerrigan (maybe), Mazzilli, Emslie, Billy Conners, Newman. With leadership like that all under the supreme command of Cashman how can it not succeed? Cashman has to be compared to a baseball equivalent of Julius Caesar tactically, strategically and politically. His long term insight is undisputed. And his latest contract extension the equivalent of crossing the Rubicon. And he has displayed a brilliant mind showing a Hannibal-like innovation.


I agree.
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Postby bigh0rt » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:11 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:
jecarney64 wrote:This is very shocking, seems like a power struggle between Theo and Luccino, and Larry has won. Maybe Theo is getting out at the right time, but the yankees don't seem to be building a dynasty either - Kevin Brown... Aaron Small...an aging Randy Johnson....

Theo rebuilt the Sox farm system, got them a World Championship and is an up and coming talent. I don't think he will sit for a season, I see the Dodgers or somone grabbing him.


LOL...Come on, all the pieces are in place for another Yankee Dynasty. Torre, Guidry (in all likelihood), Kerrigan (maybe), Mazzilli, Emslie, Billy Conners, Newman. With leadership like that all under the supreme command of Cashman how can it not succeed? Cashman has to be compared to a baseball equivalent of Julius Caesar tactically, strategically and politically. His long term insight is undisputed. And his latest contract extension the equivalent of crossing the Rubicon. And he has displayed a brilliant mind showing a Hannibal-like innovation.


It's no secret that I can't stand 99% of what you say...

...but man, this one got a nice chuckle outta me. :-b

Good stuff.
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