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Postby LooseCannon » Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:33 am

I think I'll take him late. In my mind he is a sleeper next year and I think he'll bounce back...
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Postby stumpak » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:41 pm

I think it is a little presumptuopus to be so dismissive of KC's run support. Sure they sucked last season, but theyhave said that they are adding payroll. I would bet that while they are still below average next year, they will not be quite so bad.

For Greinke, the bigger concern with the Royals would be the crappy bullpe, but this has a chance to improve too if soem of the young guys continue to develop.

Grienke is definitely on my list of people I will be looking to take a flyer on if the opportunity presents itself.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:18 pm

From the posts I'm thinking in year to year leagues it might be good to avoid him and keepers you have to have him on the radar.
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Postby kimchi_chigae » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:32 pm

bronxxbomber wrote:From the posts I'm thinking in year to year leagues it might be good to avoid him and keepers you have to have him on the radar.


avoid could be too strong of a word..perhaps don't add him is better. :-)

depending on the league, he's worth a spot and yes, his value is a lot higher in keeper than redraft leagues.
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Postby J35J » Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:11 pm

A KC guy opinion..... He will be no better than a #2 at best and probably just a solid #3 guy. I see him being like a Radke type... mid to upper 3's ERA with an occasional low 4 ERA with good Ratios and won't go over 150 K's in a season. I like the guy to be solid for us for years to come but he isn't the future anything in my eyes. I'd love for him to win 14-15 with a 3.4-3.5ERA 1.10WHIP and 150K's but I'm not holding my breath and if he ever does better than that I would crap my pants!!! lol

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Postby Music2004Man » Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:03 pm

I wouldn't even look at Greinke in a redraft league but I definitely think he's worth a late shot in a keeper league. I think he has the potential to turn into a Glavine/Radke/Wells type pitcher (but it might take a couple of years).
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Postby rotterdam_82 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:56 pm

Music2004Man wrote:I wouldn't even look at Greinke in a redraft league but I definitely think he's worth a late shot in a keeper league. I think he has the potential to turn into a Glavine/Radke/Wells type pitcher (but it might take a couple of years).


My god. I never thought I would see the day when Glavine and Radke are mentioned in the same sentence. If Grienke has the potential to put up Glavine numbers then he's a top 10 rounder easy.

But he doesn't, so he isn't.......
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Postby prodpaul » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:01 am

LooseCannon wrote:I think I'll take him late. In my mind he is a sleeper next year and I think he'll bounce back...


I agree. Word has it that he didn't get a long to well with our Pitching Coach Guy Hansen. Well, he is gone now so let's see if adjusts well to our new coach, Bob McClure.
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Postby Music2004Man » Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:06 am

prodpaul wrote:
LooseCannon wrote:I think I'll take him late. In my mind he is a sleeper next year and I think he'll bounce back...


I agree. Word has it that he didn't get a long to well with our Pitching Coach Guy Hansen. Well, he is gone now so let's see if adjusts well to our new coach, Bob McClure.


Any thoughts on why they didn't get along? Was it a personality conflict/philosophy conflict?
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Postby Surfs up » Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:25 pm

Yeah I suppose the pitching coach told the hitters when ever Greinke pitches not to score and runs. I don't care if they brought in Mazzone or Stottelmyre. He still pitches for KC. A chance of scenery would be the best thing for that kid.
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