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Postby pokerplaya » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:50 am

TheYanks04 wrote:To say that he will be 38 I hope that that does not mean to imply this sort of ineptness is excuseable...because it isn't imo.

Kent was a top 5 2b with only Soriano clearly a cut better than him (Figgins too if you want to count him). You can argue Utley and Roberts as well, though I can't see picking Roberts at this point over Kent in any format. To forget about a former MVP and a top 5 2b is inexcuseable. To leave him off because of age and say you rather have Belliard or Polanco is even more ridiculous.


He going to forget Bonds and Sheffield, Clemens and Hoffman too?

Of course it should be noted that this guy for his 1b rankings had Morneau over Konerko and Delgado....which begs the question as to where they get these guys? Who in his right mind would want Morneau over Konerko?


I have to agree with you 100% on this one...
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Postby raiders_umpire » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:13 pm

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Of course it should be noted that this guy for his 1b rankings had Morneau over Konerko and Delgado....which begs the question as to where they get these guys? Who in his right mind would want Morneau over Konerko?






they make all these outlandish picks so that come the end of 2006 and one of these 20+ crazy picks pan out, they can say they predicted the breakout of player X....
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Postby dannahann » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:30 pm

Lets be fair, Gleaman states that these rankings are for looking longterm, possibly 10 yrs+. It's strictly from a dynasty type perspective, and a 38yo Kent isn't nearly as valuable in that scenario is he is for 06 or even 07.
To quote Gleaman "There is nothing better than swinging a deal for a prospect, like say Ryan Howard, and watching as he takes hold of a big-league job. Suddenly you’ve got yourself a young, power-hitting first baseman for the next decade or so, and if you’re in a salaried keeper league you’ve probably got him locked up cheaply too. It sure beats trying to out-bid everyone for Mike Sweeney and Richie Sexson every year.

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Postby nuggets » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:14 am

dannahann wrote:Lets be fair, Gleaman states that these rankings are for looking longterm, possibly 10 yrs+. It's strictly from a dynasty type perspective,...


From what I gather he is trying to appeal to all keeper stlye league, most of which I believe would average only four or five years. I guess part of his slant is ambiguity. It's not set up very well though.

As far as Howard is concerned, I don't believe, at this point, that he will produce any differently than a Pat Burrell type. Not my idea of an awesome keeper pick for the next 10+ years.
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Postby RAmst23 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:55 am

Why even produce ratings according to what those in keeper leagues need? Doesn't the majority of the public play a yearly version?

And wow, glad to have a guy on my team who might not produce for oh 3 YEARS. That's really helpful keeper league advice, draft a guy who won't help you this year or next year. Thanks. Not having Kent in the top 10 is just ridiculous, I'll gladly take him over a younger potential guy. Potential is available every year, proven production is rare.
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Postby EricF » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:39 pm

Check out his latest column, where he ranks shortstops. He explains why Kent was left off the list. He says Kent should rank higher than Weeks for 2006, and maybe 2007, but these rankings are for keeper leagues, and Weeks will be peforming better than Kent five years from now.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:45 pm

EricF wrote:Check out his latest column, where he ranks shortstops. He explains why Kent was left off the list. He says Kent should rank higher than Weeks for 2006, and maybe 2007, but these rankings are for keeper leagues, and Weeks will be peforming better than Kent five years from now.


you beat me to posting this, but now we can all calm down about this because he's absolutely thinking long term with these picks.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:40 pm

Yeah right. He says Kent is not worth more than Ronnie Beliiard and EVERYONE in tthat article. So by that I assume he will keep Bonds, Sheffield, Hoffman and Clemens off his lists. Come on. He is trying to make up for the criticism he has taken over his article. This guy also likes Morneau over Konerko longterm. Yeah right. Who does keeper drafts with 10 years in mind? The idea is perposterous. Most keeper leagues are 3-5 year entites and if you really want Ronnie Belliard over Kent then you have issues. Spin and BS are not going to change that.
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Postby zepfan » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:46 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:This guy also likes Morneau over Konerko longterm. Yeah right.


Not defending the article but a lot of people would take Morneau over Konerko longterm.
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