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Postby Pogotheostrich » Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:56 pm

dyuen87 wrote:gota show biggio more love than that. a .260 average isn't terrible, but with 26 dingers, 69 rbis, and 96 runs, he has pretty good power from your 2b hole. from what i remember he was a pretty streaky player this year which wasnt good to see, but he's proven for years he can get it done. if it isnt a keeper league id draft him probably right after figgins.
Crazy talk. I'll take Giles before Biggio everyday and twice on Sundays.
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Postby steevie » Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:35 pm

first 3 are pretty clear i think
soriano

utely, figgins

cantu, reyes, and maybe barmes are close
(i dont like kent, but maybe he should be also in this group)

giles, polanco, biggio, cano, iguchi, lugo, hall

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Re: 2B Ranks.....for 06

Postby raiders_umpire » Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:48 pm

BravesGuy wrote:Ive already made a 3B ranking and wanted to see what a few of yall thought about the 2B Rankings. This is supposed to be the weakest position in terms of numbers.

I'll be changing the rankings as you guys give replys....
A. Soriano (Tex - 2B)
C. Utley (Phi - 1B,2B)
J. Kent (LAD - 1B,2B)
C. Figgins (LAA - 2B,3B,SS,OF)
B. Roberts (Bal - 2B)
M. Giles (Atl - 2B)
J. Cantú (TB - 2B,3B)
R. Weeks (Mil - 2B)
R. Cano (NYY - 2B)
T. Iguchi (CWS - 2B)
C. Barmes (Col - 2B,SS) - is he still eligible?
F. López (Cin - 2B,3B,SS)
J. Lugo (TB - 2B,SS)
M. Loretta (SD - 2B)
J. Vidro (Was - 2B)
L. Castillo (Fla - 2B)
J. Uribe (CWS - 2B,3B,SS)
R. Freel (Cin - 2B,3B,OF)
P. Polanco (Det - 2B,3B)
B. Hall (Mil - 2B,3B,SS)
R. Belliard (Cle - 2B)
C. Biggio (Hou - 2B,OF) - he's really old now....

questionable players.....
K. Matsui (NYM - 2B,SS)
R. Durham (SF - 2B)
C. Counsell (Ari - 2B,SS)
B. Mueller (Bos - 2B,3B)
M. Ellis (Oak - 2B,SS)
M. Lowell (Fla - 2B,3B)
O. Hudson (Tor - 2B)
R. Mackowiak (Pit - 2B,3B,OF)
M. Grudzielanek (StL - 2B)
R. Aurilia (Cin - 2B,3B,SS)
A. Kennedy (LAA - 2B)
T. Graffanino (Bos - 1B,2B,3B)
T. Walker (ChC - 2B)
N. Pérez (ChC - 2B,SS)
Lu. González (Col - 1B,2B,3B,SS,OF)
M. Cuddyer (Min - 1B,2B,3B,OF)
J. Castillo (Pit - 2B)
E. Alfonzo (SF - 2B,3B)
T. Womack (NYY - 2B,OF)
F. Sánchez (Pit - 2B,3B,SS)
A. Núñez (StL - 2B,3B,SS)
Á. Cintrón (Ari - 2B,3B,SS)
M. Lamb (Hou - 1B,2B,3B,OF)
A. Miles (Col - 2B)
M. Scutaro (Oak - 2B,SS)

thanks guys!




got to move up cantu, lugo, polanco, and biggio big time.... and uribe will be nowhere near a top 20 list for me as well.....
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Re: 2B Ranks.....for 06

Postby dyuen87 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:41 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
dyuen87 wrote:gota show biggio more love than that. a .260 average isn't terrible, but with 26 dingers, 69 rbis, and 96 runs, he has pretty good power from your 2b hole. from what i remember he was a pretty streaky player this year which wasnt good to see, but he's proven for years he can get it done. if it isnt a keeper league id draft him probably right after figgins.
Crazy talk. I'll take Giles before Biggio everyday and twice on Sundays.


crazy talk? i highly doubt that. as long it's not a keeper leauge, you've got to put these two on similar levels. by the way you said that it would seem like giles is a lot better than biggio, but in reality biggio is just as good if not better than giles. a slight dropoff in average is worth 11 more homers in a season and 6 more rbis. their runs scored is similar and giles has 5 more sbs. you would probably be able to pick up biggio in later rounds of the draft as well.
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Postby blankman » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:05 pm

thomasps3 wrote:The onyl thing I think you guys ar emissing is the fact that Cantu hit 28 HRs, had 117 RBI and .286 average, I would have him ranked top 5, and no less. CANO WILL POST MUCH MORE PEDESTRIAN NUMBERS THIS YEAR, GUARANTEED.

Edit: Cantu is also only 23 years old!


Guarenteed? Based on what?

Too funny what prejudice does to people's ratings of players, young and old.


I'd have no problems banking on Cano as my 2B in 2006 and even moreso in leagues counting doubles and/or not OBP.
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Postby BravesGuy » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:23 pm

/this look better guys?

A. Soriano (Tex - 2B)
C. Utley (Phi - 1B,2B)
J. Kent (LAD - 1B,2B)
C. Figgins (LAA - 2B,3B,SS,OF)
M. Giles (Atl - 2B)
J. Cantú (TB - 2B,3B)
R. Weeks (Mil - 2B)
R. Cano (NYY - 2B)
P. Polanco (Det - 2B,3B)
F. López (Cin - 2B,3B,SS)
B. Roberts (Bal - 2B)
C. Biggio (Hou - 2B,OF)
T. Iguchi (CWS - 2B)
J. Lugo (TB - 2B,SS)
C. Barmes (Col - 2B,SS)
M. Loretta (SD - 2B)
R. Belliard (Cle - 2B)
J. Vidro (Was - 2B)
L. Castillo (Fla - 2B)
R. Freel (Cin - 2B,3B,OF)
B. Hall (Mil - 2B,3B,SS)
O. Hudson (Tor - 2B)
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Postby davidmarver » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:34 pm

If Soriano doesn't stay in Texas, does anyone else think it's possible Utley is #1 going into next season?
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Postby cordscords » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:42 pm

davidmarver wrote:If Soriano doesn't stay in Texas, does anyone else think it's possible Utley is #1 going into next season?


It's possible. If he ends up going to the Twins I would think about flipping the 2, but I'd still probably give Soriano the nod.
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Postby dyuen87 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:45 pm

id bump roberts down a bit. he put up ridiculous numbers in the first few months but afterwards he became an average hitter. and with this injury there is no telling how he will do when he comes back or even if he'll be ready by spring training.
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Postby prhood » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:04 pm

Would suggest moving Belliard up several notches - probably ahead of Vidro who has been slowed considerably by injuries. Belliard has developed into a nice consistent .285 hitter with .450+ Slg %. An he hits LHP & RHP equally well. Very under-rated I think.
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