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Postby wkelly91 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:35 pm

I am wondering how you guys decide on pitchers...

Do you take an average pitcher on a high run support team such as Boston or the Yanks?

Or do you go for a pitcher on a poor run producing team yet he posts good WHIP, ERA, or strikeouts?

Example:

Suppan 32-S, 17-QS, 16-W, 3.566-ERA, 1.384-Whip, 114-K's Stl Runs-805

or

Patterson 31-S, 19-QS, 9-W, 3.131-ERA, 1.195-Whip, 185-K's Wash. Runs-615

Here you have Suppan, an average pitcher on a great hitting team, and in Patterson you have a possible up and coming stud on the worst run producing team in MLB.

How do you decide? :-?
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:46 pm

I go for quality pitchers in the draft. You can never tell, because a pitcher on a good hitting team may be the unlucky guy that goes little run support. So, I draft quality, then, if I'm a little weak on wins, I might pick up someone or get some spot starts from guys to catch up in wins.
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Postby The Jury » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:04 pm

I draft the best pitchers usually... good pitchers can give their respective teams a chance to win, but a bad pitcher who scoops up wins isn't going to pitch any better.
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Re: Drafting pitchers? Stat stud or Winning team?

Postby Tavish » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:03 pm

wkelly91 wrote:Example:

Suppan 32-S, 17-QS, 16-W, 3.566-ERA, 1.384-Whip, 114-K's Stl Runs-805

or

Patterson 31-S, 19-QS, 9-W, 3.131-ERA, 1.195-Whip, 185-K's Wash. Runs-615


Patterson wins the category battle 3 to 1. Suppan's 7 extra wins doesn't make up for Patterson's overall numbers. Always go for the better numbers pitcher over the pitcher who does little more than collect wins.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:37 pm

Tavish wrote:
wkelly91 wrote:Example:

Suppan 32-S, 17-QS, 16-W, 3.566-ERA, 1.384-Whip, 114-K's Stl Runs-805

or

Patterson 31-S, 19-QS, 9-W, 3.131-ERA, 1.195-Whip, 185-K's Wash. Runs-615


Patterson wins the category battle 3 to 1. Suppan's 7 extra wins doesn't make up for Patterson's overall numbers. Always go for the better numbers pitcher over the pitcher who does little more than collect wins.


exactly, but you have to balance it because all categories have their own worth. sometimes you might have to draft out of need even if they're not the best overall pitcher.
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Re: Drafting pitchers? Stat stud or Winning team?

Postby Tavish » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:42 pm

bronxxbomber wrote:
Tavish wrote:
wkelly91 wrote:Example:

Suppan 32-S, 17-QS, 16-W, 3.566-ERA, 1.384-Whip, 114-K's Stl Runs-805

or

Patterson 31-S, 19-QS, 9-W, 3.131-ERA, 1.195-Whip, 185-K's Wash. Runs-615


Patterson wins the category battle 3 to 1. Suppan's 7 extra wins doesn't make up for Patterson's overall numbers. Always go for the better numbers pitcher over the pitcher who does little more than collect wins.


exactly, but you have to balance it because all categories have their own worth. sometimes you might have to draft out of need even if they're not the best overall pitcher.

In my experience chasing wins at the cost of other categories is a good way to get yourself in a ton of trouble.
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Re: Drafting pitchers? Stat stud or Winning team?

Postby davidmarver » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:15 am

bronxxbomber wrote:
Tavish wrote:
wkelly91 wrote:Example:

Suppan 32-S, 17-QS, 16-W, 3.566-ERA, 1.384-Whip, 114-K's Stl Runs-805

or

Patterson 31-S, 19-QS, 9-W, 3.131-ERA, 1.195-Whip, 185-K's Wash. Runs-615


Patterson wins the category battle 3 to 1. Suppan's 7 extra wins doesn't make up for Patterson's overall numbers. Always go for the better numbers pitcher over the pitcher who does little more than collect wins.


exactly, but you have to balance it because all categories have their own worth. sometimes you might have to draft out of need even if they're not the best overall pitcher.

Good pitchers will always collect a few wins, so you don't sacrifice that category like you do the others by selecting random pitcher A who gets a lot of wins.
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Postby Half Massed » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:41 am

I always draft for good overall cats. An average pitcher on a good team can hurt you elsewhere while picking up a win, while a good pitcher on a bad team is less likely to hurt you in the other cats. Since there are so many outside factors in a win, it's best to choose a pitcher who will help you where he has some control.
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Postby Music2004Man » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:10 am

I agree with what everyone has been saying. You have to draft the best pitchers available because wins fluctuate a lot. Would you take Santana or Colon first? Colon's on the better team and came up with 5 more wins but Santana beat him in everything else. If I had to bet though I would say that Santana will win more games then Colon next year. You never really know what will happen with wins but K's, WHIP, K/9 and K/BB are easier to predict.
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Postby cordscords » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:14 am

Stat Stud. Like others said, wins come and go. Take 4 out of the 5 cats, and you can always vulture some wins by using middle relievers and playing good spot starters.
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