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Postby HOOTIE » Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:52 pm

Ok, a little fun here guys.

After NYY won a ring in 2000, NY signed Jeter to a 10 year, 189 million deal, 2nd highest ever, only to Arod.

After 5 years into the 10 year deal, NYY has zero rings.

Jeter in post season since signing the deal, has a .288 avg, not bad, but under his avg. before the deal. Jeter was horrible in the 01 ALCS, .118 avg, and the 01 WS .148 avg. Even the great Rivera melted down in Game 7 of 01.

In the 03 ALCS (Boston), .233 avg, .281 oba, .400 slugging, .681 ops.

In the 04 ALCS (Boston), .200 avg, .333 oba, .233 slugging, .566 ops.

And Rivera melted down in 04 in clinching Game 4.

Why does Jeter get so much love? His bad post seasons may have cost NYY 2-3 rings since 01. No NY fan ever points a finger at Jeter, or Rivera. Yet all **** breaks loose when somebody goes 2-15 in a series.
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Postby bronxxbomber » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:20 pm

People are still giving him love for the other rings they helped deliver.
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Postby bigken117 » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:00 pm

interesting theory...one of those things that make you go :-?
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:41 pm

I don't give him nearly as much credit as I used to. Before the Cafe, I was one of those guys that thought Jeter was the most clutch players in the game. I really don't know how to explain his recent dropoff in postseason play.

I jumped on Jeter (as well as nearly everyone on the team) after last year's loss but you're right when you say he doesn't get as much blame as he should. I think it's because he was a big part of those four championships, so people have a hard time bashing him. Same with Rivera and Bernie.
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Postby blankman » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:44 pm

I think we all know that I back nearly all the NY players, but I have to attribute the contract thing to coincidence.
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Postby Apollo » Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:43 pm

I'd call it regression ot the mean. You had a fairly small sample size where he did amazingly (causing everyone to call him a posteseason God), and now a fairly small sample size where he does kind of mediocre.

Just like Bonds was terrible in his first few playoff series, everybody called him a choker, and then he went crazy the one year. Just like A-Rod did well last year, had one bad 15 at-bat run this year (in which he STILL had over a .400 OBP) that caused everyone to call him a choker, and will no doubt have a great playoff series at some point down the line.
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Postby Lofunzo » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:50 pm

I have always said that Jeter should run over to 3B before each game and kiss A-Rod. The timing for Jeter's contract was perfect. It was after A-Rod got his huge contract and before the economics of the game changed.
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Postby HOOTIE » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:07 pm

blankman wrote:I think we all know that I back nearly all the NY players, but I have to attribute the contract thing to coincidence.


True, just having some fun with his contract. I was trying to come up with the biggest overall salary to win a ring during their contract. Anyone know who had the biggest salary to win a ring? Was it Manny last year? RJ in AZ in 01? Any ideas anyone?
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Postby Lofunzo » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:10 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
blankman wrote:I think we all know that I back nearly all the NY players, but I have to attribute the contract thing to coincidence.


True, just having some fun with his contract. I was trying to come up with the biggest overall salary to win a ring during their contract. Anyone know who had the biggest salary to win a ring? Was it Manny last year? RJ in AZ in 01? Any ideas anyone?


I don't see how it could be anyone other than Manny's $20M in 2004.
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Postby Fantasy Guru » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:33 pm

I just look at it this way.. as a SS, Jeter's production is great.

But not $19 million a year great.

The Yankees, although they possess unlimited funds, need to really think a bit more about how much they pay their players.

Kevin Brown at 15 million, right? Pavano and Wright at around 10.

St. Louis made one of the best signings this year. David Eckstein at 2.3 million. He hit .294, 8 homers, and like 70 rbi. That is what the Yankees should be searching for.
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