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Postby raiders_umpire » Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:50 pm

i actually like both of them, but if i had to take just one i would aim for kazmir even though they are both close... kazmir does have the better stuff even though he has the highest chance of injury due to his mechanics... kazs whip is high due to the amount of walks, but once he gets those walks under control a bit, he could turn into a top pitcher especially with that tampa bay offense behind him....
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Postby Manfred » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:36 pm

Bonderman, and it's not really all that close
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Postby Yoda » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:26 pm

I think it's very close but given that Bonderman pitches in a more favorable park and has more control, I'd go with him.
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Postby Music2004Man » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:58 pm

Yoda wrote:I think it's very close but given that Bonderman pitches in a more favorable park and has more control, I'd go with him.


I'm gonna go with Yoda on this one. In addition, I think Bonderman is farther along in his development and while both of them could turn into very good pitchers I see Bonderman developing quicker.
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Postby davidmarver » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:25 am

Yeah, Kazmir's BB, WP, and HBP at this age are almost Rick Ankiel-like.
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Postby wrveres » Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:02 pm

Bonderman ;-D
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Postby slomo007 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:46 pm

Bonderman, anytime.

Kazmir's division is too tough for me to feel comfortable starting him on a consistent basis. Don't forget how young Bonderman is (almost 23). He has a LOT of room to improve, even though it seems like he's been in the league for a while.
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Postby pokerplaya » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:44 pm

I'd take Bonderman, and I was really high on Kazmir as a Mets fan. Maybe if Kazmir were on a different team, in a different division, but right now Bonderman is and seems like he will remain the better bet. Both are immensly talented, though, so this could change.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:40 am

slomo007 wrote:Bonderman, anytime.

Kazmir's division is too tough for me to feel comfortable starting him on a consistent basis. Don't forget how young Bonderman is (almost 23). He has a LOT of room to improve, even though it seems like he's been in the league for a while.




u do know that kazmir is only 21 right??? so bonderman really has a whole year of experience on kazmir right now,,, will be interesting to see if kazmir improves this year like bonderman did last year......
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Postby cordscords » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:43 am

Kazmir by a nose
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