PlayingWithFire wrote:I don't know why he got screwed in LA? Well, the Pirates finally got a competent manager
basically he wasn't Repodesta's man. He wanted his own guy in there
Repodesta pretty much said so, the day he let him go.
anybody think that Pittsburgh will start 'running' again?
But he's still a great manager and for him to end up in a town like Pittsburg is just not right.
He'll hopefully rebound nicely there and go to a contender in 3 years.
Pittsburgh has some really nice pitching talent in the pipeline. With a good Manager (Tracy) they could contend for a while. Well at least until it come time to pay said Pitchers.
Tracy or no, Pittsburgh is still going to be awful. Let's keep in mind they're basically a farm team for the rest of the league to pluck talent out of.
No way do they contend in the toughest division in baseball outside of the AL East. They were lucky to get to 67 wins this year, and if they top 75 next year, I'll eat my hat.
Contenders... get outta here.
Is there anything fluffier than a cloud? If there is, I don't want to know about it.
WittyC wrote:Has everyone lost their marbles here?
Tracy or no, Pittsburgh is still going to be awful. Let's keep in mind they're basically a farm team for the rest of the league to pluck talent out of.
No way do they contend in the toughest division in baseball outside of the AL East. They were lucky to get to 67 wins this year, and if they top 75 next year, I'll eat my hat.
Contenders... get outta here.
They do have the talent to be a .500+ team in the next two years, but ownership needs to commit to a few players to make that happen. Like I said above, they are a good team as long as the ownership doesn't screw them over.
I think they win 72-74 next year. Bay is a nice cornerstone to build around and having Duke and Maholm in the rotation for a full year (with more pitching on the way) could be helpful. I'm still not sold on Duffy or Eldred but we'll see what happens.
WittyC wrote:Has everyone lost their marbles here?
Tracy or no, Pittsburgh is still going to be awful. Let's keep in mind they're basically a farm team for the rest of the league to pluck talent out of.
No way do they contend in the toughest division in baseball outside of the AL East. They were lucky to get to 67 wins this year, and if they top 75 next year, I'll eat my hat.
Contenders... get outta here.
They do have the talent to be a .500+ team in the next two years, but ownership needs to commit to a few players to make that happen. Like I said above, they are a good team as long as the ownership doesn't screw them over.
No, they don't. They've got some decent, young pitchers, and one superstar hitter. The entire rest of the offense is a bunch of bit players, a few of whom MIGHT top out as average major leaguers. Unless the Pirates commit to signing a few big free agent bats, they'll never have a contending offense. A great staff might pull them into contention for a year or two, but it's a thin foundation to build on. In addition, the Pirates just don't invest their money wisely. They skimp on player development and scouting (both player and advance). They ignore the important stats and focus on the meaningless ones..and now they've hired a manager that exactly fits their wrong-headed notions of what it takes to win.