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Postby Amazinz » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:48 pm

wrveres wrote:
RynMan wrote:
Amazinz wrote:But from the Phillies perspective I would want Wagner back and I'd be willing to pay for it.


How much?


lol ..

Your asking a Mets fan "How Much" ?

:-b :-b

Don't be hating on Omar "Show Me The Money" Minaya. B-)

Omar says if Philly won't cough it up he sure as hell will.

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Postby wrveres » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:53 pm

Amazinz wrote:
wrveres wrote:
RynMan wrote:
Amazinz wrote:But from the Phillies perspective I would want Wagner back and I'd be willing to pay for it.


How much?


lol ..

Your asking a Mets fan "How Much" ?

:-b :-b

Don't be hating on Omar "Show Me The Money" Minaya. B-)

Omar says if Philly won't cough it up he sure as hell will.

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you know what is really funny ..

Wagner basically fits the mold.

The Sterotypical Mets free agent signing mold, that everybody gives them chit for.

Aging and asking for a ton of money. He would be a prefect fit for the Mets.

They will never, and I do mean never .. Learn.
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Postby RynMan » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:07 am

Amazinz wrote:Omar says if Philly won't cough it up he sure as hell will.


The Mets were the first team I thought of as a suitor. :-b
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Postby dannyolbb » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:11 am

wrveres wrote:
Amazinz wrote:
wrveres wrote:
RynMan wrote:
Amazinz wrote:But from the Phillies perspective I would want Wagner back and I'd be willing to pay for it.


How much?


lol ..

Your asking a Mets fan "How Much" ?

:-b :-b

Don't be hating on Omar "Show Me The Money" Minaya. B-)

Omar says if Philly won't cough it up he sure as hell will.

Image


you know what is really funny ..

Wagner basically fits the mold.

The Sterotypical Mets free agent signing mold, that everybody gives them chit for.

Aging and asking for a ton of money. He would be a prefect fit for the Mets.

They will never, and I do mean never .. Learn.



I'm the last guy to defend the Mets, but I think you're off your rocker. Two reasons:

1. Plenty of players are great as they get older. Check out my Giants and one Barry Bonds for confirmation.

2. The Mets new GM Minaya seems to be better than the last couple of guys they had in there. The Beltran signing, though it doesn't look good right now, deviates strongly from the signing-old-guys-mold.

Oh, and by the way, here are the average age of the NY Mets and another popular team chosen at random:
Mets 30.3
Padres 30.6

I think you're letting your bias get in the way of your analysis.
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Postby wrveres » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:20 am

dannyolbb wrote:
I'm the last guy to defend the Mets, but I think you're off your rocker. Two reasons:

1. Plenty of players are great as they get older. Check out my Giants and one Barry Bonds for confirmation.

2. The Mets new GM Minaya seems to be better than the last couple of guys they had in there. The Beltran signing, though it doesn't look good right now, deviates strongly from the signing-old-guys-mold.

Oh, and by the way, here are the average age of the NY Mets and another popular team chosen at random:
Mets 30.3
Padres 30.6

I think you're letting your bias get in the way of your analysis.


another random team .. I love it ..

The Padres are old on paper due to Hoffman, Woody, Randa and Klesko.

The rest of that team is relatively young .
Peavy
Eaton
Hernandez
Greene

just to name a few ..


as for the Mets, all you need to do is ask one of their fans about signing old washed up players. I don't really need to do any analysis, they will tell you.
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Postby daullaz » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:56 am

wrveres wrote:
dannyolbb wrote:
I'm the last guy to defend the Mets, but I think you're off your rocker. Two reasons:

1. Plenty of players are great as they get older. Check out my Giants and one Barry Bonds for confirmation.

2. The Mets new GM Minaya seems to be better than the last couple of guys they had in there. The Beltran signing, though it doesn't look good right now, deviates strongly from the signing-old-guys-mold.

Oh, and by the way, here are the average age of the NY Mets and another popular team chosen at random:
Mets 30.3
Padres 30.6

I think you're letting your bias get in the way of your analysis.


another random team .. I love it ..

The Padres are old on paper due to Hoffman, Woody, Randa and Klesko.

The rest of that team is relatively young .
Peavy
Eaton
Hernandez
Greene

just to name a few ..


as for the Mets, all you need to do is ask one of their fans about signing old washed up players. I don't really need to do any analysis, they will tell you.


The Mets are old on paper due to Mike Piazza, Jose Offerman, Tom Glavine and Roberto Hernandez.

The rest of the team is relatively young.
Reyes
Wright
Beltran
Diaz

just to name a few....

Sorry. Just had to. :-D

Oh, and by the way, the thread is called "Phillies GM shown the door."

Talk about thread-hijacking. Jeez !+)
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Postby wrveres » Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:05 am

daullaz wrote:
wrveres wrote:
dannyolbb wrote:
I'm the last guy to defend the Mets, but I think you're off your rocker. Two reasons:

1. Plenty of players are great as they get older. Check out my Giants and one Barry Bonds for confirmation.

2. The Mets new GM Minaya seems to be better than the last couple of guys they had in there. The Beltran signing, though it doesn't look good right now, deviates strongly from the signing-old-guys-mold.

Oh, and by the way, here are the average age of the NY Mets and another popular team chosen at random:
Mets 30.3
Padres 30.6

I think you're letting your bias get in the way of your analysis.


another random team .. I love it ..

The Padres are old on paper due to Hoffman, Woody, Randa and Klesko.

The rest of that team is relatively young .
Peavy
Eaton
Hernandez
Greene

just to name a few ..


as for the Mets, all you need to do is ask one of their fans about signing old washed up players. I don't really need to do any analysis, they will tell you.


The Mets are old on paper due to Mike Piazza, Jose Offerman, Tom Glavine and Roberto Hernandez.

The rest of the team is relatively young.
Reyes
Wright
Beltran
Diaz

just to name a few....

Sorry. Just had to. :-D

Oh, and by the way, the thread is called "Phillies GM shown the door."

Talk about thread-hijacking. Jeez !+)


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Postby eaglesfan » Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:30 am

wrveres wrote:
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RynMan wrote:Hmmm, on second thoughts it doesn't really appeal to Seattle unless they are really THAT dissatisfied with Beltre.

Can any1 give me any reason why the Phillies should resign Wagner? He is going to command alot of money for 70-80 innings per season.....that's if he stays healthy.

I know Wagner wants to stay, the Phils have just taken forever to lock him up. Wade was scheduled to meet with Wagner this week, but since he got axed who knows what will happen.

I think the Phils want to sign him for one, we have no other closer on the team or in the farm system! Urbina was bad most of the time! Two there isn't anything that comes close to Wagner in FA! Three and most important, just like the Phillies got 10,000 lettersdemanding Wade's firing from fans they'll get another 10,000 if they don't resign him! I would say he is probably the second most liked player on the team to Utley!


its my understanding the a few of the Philly VP's met with Wagners agent instead. It was either today or tomorrow


There meeting today, Amaro Jr and Montgomery. Wagner wants 27 over three years and a no trade, which I think they will give him, but speculation is he is pushing hard for Hunsacker(spl?) as the next GM so who know how that whole thing will work out.

The Phillies really do things way to late and always in the wrong order! :-t
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Postby Music2004Man » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:52 pm

I agree Eagles Fan. I'm really happy that Wade is gone but they need to get a GM first and then worry about signing Wagner. Nobody else can negotiate with him now anyway.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:45 pm

$9 million a year for Wagner seems about right. I'd be worried about giving him 3 years. :-o
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