GotowarMissAgnes wrote: Lofunzo wrote: GotowarMissAgnes wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:You are wrong. How is their season tainted?? Please show me proof that Giambi took steroids this season and I will gladly admit that this season is tainted. Palmeiro failed a test this season. Giambi did not.
Unless you assume that effects of steroids and HGH disappear rapidly upon discontinuing use, Giambi and all users continue to benefit from their past use.
I don't think that it goes right away but did you see him when he reported to ST?? That and it has been some time since he supposably admitted to doing it.
So, you can tell whether or not players are benefitting from steroid and HGH use just by looking at them? You could save MLB a lot of money on testing.
According to the reports of what Giambi told the grand jury, he used for more than 3 years. Who knows how rapidly or slowly those benefits wear off? The only reliable way to know that his performance was not enhanced now and taints the Yankees outcomes would be for him to not play at all. That is a decision the Yankees could have made. They did not. They live with the consequences.
For steroids to work effectively, they need to be used constantly, and in the process of working out on a daily basis.
I really don't understand how you can say that his playing "taints" the Yankee organization. For all we know there are tons of players from every organization in baseball who have used steroids before, are they "tainting" their organizations by playing? Are you that naive to think there isn't someone on the Orioles who has used steroids before? I mean these things weren't even agaisnt the rules until a couple of years back...
For some reason, nowadays there is this obsession over steroids and how bad they are for pro sports, though they have been used for decades (in all sports, and not just baseball) with fans either not caring or not bothering to notice. I just can't understand it. IMO, steroids are all hype derived by the media.
Giambi deserves this award because of what he came back from these past few years, I wish everyone would get off his back. You only need to look at the difference between 2004 and 2005 to understand why Giambi won this award.