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Postby wkelly91 » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:32 pm

Just wondering who you will be avoiding at all costs next year. Some players seem to get drafted on name power long past their productive years. Next year I will not touch:

Sammy Sosa .221-39-14-45-1 :-P :-P :-P
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Postby raiders_umpire » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:48 pm

brian roberts
dontrelle willis--- considering the cost he will be
derek lee-- again cost too high
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:05 pm

I don't think Roberts, Willis, or Lee are really an appropriate response to "avoid at all costs", which is a different question than "will be too costly comapred to what I think they'll produce."

The spirit of the question is more along the lines of: "You have the final pick in the last round of the draft and player X has still not been drafted. Would you pick him?"

A few I'd consider for the list:

OCabrera
Finley
Nevin
Bagwell
Koskie
ABoone
Bernie
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Postby revenge_of_the_cards » Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:11 pm

Beltre, Sosa, Thome, C Patterson, K Matsui, Hinske just to name a few.
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Postby BritSox » Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:01 pm

The spirit of the question is more along the lines of: "You have the final pick in the last round of the draft and player X has still not been drafted. Would you pick him?"

In which case I'd definitely take Finley, Thome or Beltre in that situation.
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Postby wrveres » Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:11 pm

Interesting ...

ABoone, Bagwell, OCabrera

without running any numbers, I would think that these are 3 guys that could provide real bargains next season. All three will play in pretty good offenses to ..

Finley, Nevin and Williams are def toast ..
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Postby Red Stripe » Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:32 pm

Well theres a ton of crappy guys like OCab, Bagwell, Kaz, Koskie that I'm obviously going to stay away from. Some bigger name players I'll probably stay away from are Beltre, Beltran(avoiding him because I think he'll be 10th-11th round value again as he was this year and there is no way he falls that far down.), Carpenter, Willis, Garland, Sosa(I've always stayed away from him ever since the steroid issue and his numbers falling.), Any free agent hitter than ends up in a pitchers park.
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:11 pm

wrveres wrote:Interesting ...

ABoone, Bagwell, OCabrera

without running any numbers, I would think that these are 3 guys that could provide real bargains next season. All three will play in pretty good offenses to ..

Finley, Nevin and Williams are def toast ..


Bagwell's 38 next year and here's his OPS trend:1049, 1039, 966, 919, 897, 842, 744.

Boone's 33 next year and:834, 753, 780, out, 676

OCab's only 31, but people seem fixated on 2003. Here's his last 4 OPS numbers: 701, 807, 689, 678. I think it's pretty easy to find a SS who can get me an OPS in the 650-700 range, and that's what OCab is. Add in that he's over 30 and began to suffer injuries this year, and I'm pretty sure there's no good reason to pick him next year.
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Postby bleach168 » Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:27 pm

You need to cut Aaron some slack since he was coming back from an injury that kept him out 16 months. Take the first two months away from his 2005 numbers and he has a .770 OPS - well in line with his career norms.
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Postby wrveres » Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:44 pm

well Boone got off to a horrible start, so i will cut him some slack.

As for Bagwell, he has been playing with a bad back for the last two seasons, but still hit for some decent power. I know he is 38 but hopefully this surgery will help him and he could be a nice value in the later round. All of this is off the top of my head of course but if he can get back to where he was only a year and half ago .. thats good value. I wouldn't write off Bagwell just yet
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