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LOL. I love threads like this. The ol' prediction of the hyped up kid who hasn't proved anything yet at this level. I think predicting him to do what Kazmir has done this year is optimistic. To say he will win more than 10 games, strike out 160+ batters, and have an ERA less than say 4.25 is beyond optimistic. I've seen the kid pitch a few times... He has great stuff, he strikes guys out. However, he gets into deep counts, he's wild, he has zero poise at this age, and he gets rattled and loses confidence. He's not Felix Hernandez, and 12, 13, 14, 15 Win pitchers don't grow on trees. Especially not guys who do that this young on a team that can't score runs. And don't tell me they'll have a better offense next year because they couldn't score with Hunter healthy either and it's not like they're going to open the wallet for some bats.
Sorry to use this as an example but:
I've got him on my keeper team. I predict:
13 wins 180 K's 4 ERA 1.3 WHIP
With 2 starts remaining...
Johan Santana (Same offense)
14 Wins
223 K's
3 ERA
1 WHIP
Don't invest too heavily in Liriano. He still strike guys out and may win 10 games but will likely kill you in WHIP and ERA in the long run with a couple stretches of brilliance mixed in (think 2-3 good starts in a row).
Atrophying Testicles wrote:LOL. I love threads like this. The ol' prediction of the hyped up kid who hasn't proved anything yet at this level. I think predicting him to do what Kazmir has done this year is optimistic. To say he will win more than 10 games, strike out 160+ batters, and have an ERA less than say 4.25 is beyond optimistic. I've seen the kid pitch a few times... He has great stuff, he strikes guys out. However, he gets into deep counts, he's wild, he has zero poise at this age, and he gets rattled and loses confidence. He's not Felix Hernandez, and 12, 13, 14, 15 Win pitchers don't grow on trees. Especially not guys who do that this young on a team that can't score runs. And don't tell me they'll have a better offense next year because they couldn't score with Hunter healthy either and it's not like they're going to open the wallet for some bats.
Sorry to use this as an example but:
I've got him on my keeper team. I predict:
13 wins 180 K's 4 ERA 1.3 WHIP
With 2 starts remaining...
Johan Santana (Same offense)
14 Wins 223 K's 3 ERA 1 WHIP
Don't invest too heavily in Liriano. He still strike guys out and may win 10 games but will likely kill you in WHIP and ERA in the long run with a couple stretches of brilliance mixed in (think 2-3 good starts in a row).
I expect him to kill me in ERA and WHIP. The K's are nice though.
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Unless the Twins score some runs I doubt he get 13 wins. I think he will lose a few games 2-1 3-2 Those are games being on a better hitting team he would win.
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by brandnew » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:08 am 
