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Postby CubsFan7724 » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:41 pm

Scapegoat firing. What was he supposed to do with that garbage?
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Postby RynMan » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:45 pm

CubsFan7724 wrote:Scapegoat firing. What was he supposed to do with that garbage?


Yeah, realistically this is a joke.
Lou isn't the problem, the management is.
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Postby Apollo » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:26 am

Remember when he was going to start the game with a reliever and finish it with a starter?

I have a feeling Lou isn't shedding any tears over this firing.
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Postby Half Massed » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:59 am

He definitely wanted change, either in the organization or in scenery. As to where he'll end up, who knows? Maybe Baltimore?
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Postby wrveres » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:29 am

benjapage wrote:maybe a triumphant return to the 'nati?! :*)

...i wish...

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I could totally see that ..

good call ;-D
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:23 am

wrveres wrote:
benjapage wrote:maybe a triumphant return to the 'nati?! :*)

...i wish...

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I could totally see that ..

good call ;-D
Makes sense, I just wonder if Cincy would open up the pocketbook for him. They have been pretty cheap with managers in the past.
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Postby AT » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:58 am

This isn't a firing. Lou doesn't want to be there anymore and that's no secret. They probably figured they'd rather have a coach for less money that wants to be there. Figure he was gonna get $4.5M to stay and $2.2M to go and they go sign a manager for less than a Mill, they're probably saving $1.5M letting him go. Both sides probably thought it was best. Hard to argue that it was "a firing". Lou's not going to the Yankees unless they win the series this year and Torre decides to retire with a buyout from George. I could see that happening, but only if they win the series. Other destinations I could see are Baltimore, Chicago if Dusty takes a long walk off a short pier, and Detroit. I could also see him taking a year off and managing the Yankees in 2007 when Torre's contract is up and he likely retires.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:42 am

warrick95 wrote:;-D ;-D ;-D

Kick out Naimoli and LaMar (there have been some rumors regarding them) and we'll be looking pretty good.




i understand your pain with Lou,, but honestly Naimoli is the main problem.... but i do see why Lou is leaving,,, with Naimoli in charge, there is not a lot Lou could do for the drays.... but i dont really see Lou going to the reds either as they are about as cheap now as the drays are in a sense.... but with the way Lamar has built the farm system up, i would personally love to see him stay around if a new owner that wanted to spend some money would come aboard... i really think lamar could do a good job if he had the backing and money to play with....
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Postby warrick95 » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:03 pm

RynMan wrote:
CubsFan7724 wrote:Scapegoat firing. What was he supposed to do with that garbage?


Yeah, realistically this is a joke.
Lou isn't the problem, the management is.


Certainly management shares the majority of the blame, but Lou was a horrific fit in the first place. What we need is a developmental manager who's foremost goal is not to win games, but to develop young talent. Yes, this is contradictory to the point of the game of baseball, but in order to build a powerhouse for the future in the AL East, it is what needs to be done. No way would Lou be content doing that kind of stuff, nor would most manager (I, personally, wouldn't mind).

And I agree with AT that this isn't really a firing. Lou personally wanted out, but was only staying as a matter of honoring his contract.

Raiders, I see what you're saying. I agree that Naimoli is probably the main reason for our failure. I also recognize that LaMar has made some good choices in the past: the draft and the Kazmir trade. However, he's also made some pretty bad signings in his day. I'm not sure if that's all management. He's gone for a lot of over the hill players in his day, including Greg Vaughn and Roberto Alomar.
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Postby Red Stripe » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:10 pm

So long Lou, only if that team was under different management then you might've had the chance to coach a promising young team. Hope he finds a managing job with some other big league ballclub.
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