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Postby Strasil42 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:20 pm

Another homer tonight.

Keep it up Robbie. ;-D ;-D
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Postby Strasil42 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:39 pm

And another..
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Postby George_Foreman » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:40 pm

dyuen87 wrote:haha yankee haters are just angry that the yankees somhow managed to produce a good player from their farm even during the steinbrenner era. all teams had a chance to get this guy, but NO ONE wanted him. i wouldn't be surprised if he turns into a .300 hitter, doubles machine with power in his future. ;-D show cano the love.

conversely, yankie fans are just a tad over-excited that the yank's farm system finally produced someone of better-than-bench level talent. >_<

although to be fair, nick johnson has had a decent season, considering he's playing for the worst hitting club in the NL.
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Postby dyuen87 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:05 pm

George_Foreman wrote:
dyuen87 wrote:haha yankee haters are just angry that the yankees somhow managed to produce a good player from their farm even during the steinbrenner era. all teams had a chance to get this guy, but NO ONE wanted him. i wouldn't be surprised if he turns into a .300 hitter, doubles machine with power in his future. ;-D show cano the love.

conversely, yankie fans are just a tad over-excited that the yank's farm system finally produced someone of better-than-bench level talent. >_<

although to be fair, nick johnson has had a decent season, considering he's playing for the worst hitting club in the NL.


haha i know we are. ;-D but come on man feel for us. we've watched players come and go in our farm system and havent had a single decent player since the mid 90s. FINALLY we get a decent starter in wang and a pretty good 2b in cano. :-D im sorry im still young, i wasnt really a fan wen jeter petitte or mo came up, this is my first taste.
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Postby blankman » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:36 pm

Yeah guys....Cano...a ROOKIE...hitting .294 in his first year really sucks ;-7


LMAO :-b
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Postby moneybaseball » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:51 pm

blankman wrote:I had thought of digging up the old thread.

28 doubles in less than 120 games 8-o 8-o 8-o 8-o 8-o 8-o


What is so amazing about that?
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Postby bd3521 » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:15 am

moneybaseball wrote:
blankman wrote:I had thought of digging up the old thread.

28 doubles in less than 120 games 8-o 8-o 8-o 8-o 8-o 8-o


What is so amazing about that?
Look at the guys below(and around) him in AL doubles per game. Pretty good company for a rook

Mike Sweeney 0.34
Miguel Tejada 0.32
Brian Roberts 0.31
Travis Hafner 0.30
Coco Crisp 0.29
Hideki Matsui 0.29
Jorge L. Cantu 0.28
Alfonso Soriano 0.27
Omar Infante 0.26
Ivan Rodriguez 0.26
Michael Young 0.26
David DeJesus 0.26
Ron Belliard 0.26
Robinson Cano 0.25
David Ortiz 0.25
Shea Hillenbrand 0.25
Johnny Damon 0.25
Jhonny Peralta 0.25
Bill Mueller 0.25
Kevin Mench 0.24
Jason Varitek 0.24
Eric Chavez 0.24
Mark Teixeira 0.24
Emil Brown 0.23
Mark Kotsay 0.23
Nick Swisher 0.23
Edgar Renteria 0.23
Jeremy Reed 0.23
Garret Anderson 0.23
Richie Sexson 0.23
Matt Lawton 0.23
Grady Sizemore 0.23
Adrian Beltre 0.22
Jay Gibbons 0.22
Julio Lugo 0.22
Aaron Rowand 0.21
Casey Blake 0.21
Manny Ramirez 0.21
Hank Blalock 0.21
Melvin Mora 0.21
Vladimir Guerrero 0.21
Lew Ford 0.21
Shannon Stewart 0.21
Carl Crawford 0.21
Kevin Millar 0.21
Jermaine Dye 0.21
Darin Erstad 0.21
Raul Ibanez 0.21
Brandon Inge 0.20
Vernon Wells 0.20
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Postby DK » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:34 am

The difference between Cano and Infante is not nearly as far apart as most of you make it out to be. Batting average, taken by itself, is overrated. Combining it with Secondary Average (which is more important, I believe, but for argument's sake keep them even) makes it a better metric.

Batting Average (per the stats DM stated):
Cano - .287
Infante - .221

Secondary Average:
Cano - .256
Infante - .312

Combining the two, Cano's overall output is .272, while Infante's is .267. Cano has 9 Win Shares, four under average for his playing time, Infante has 7 Win Shares, also four under average for his playing time. I agree that Cano is a better hitter, definitely. But it's not like they're insane to compare.
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Postby George_Foreman » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:27 am

Omar Infante 0.26
Ivan Rodriguez 0.26
Michael Young 0.26
David DeJesus 0.26
Ron Belliard 0.26
Robinson Cano 0.25


if anything, this list shows you how pointless this stat is. you can go down that list and for every two top-level players, there's a david dejesus.

either way, cano is what he is: a better-than-bench player, but no HoFer. he probably won't go to any all-star games, although anything is possible in a given season (see: Anderson, Brady). but he'll be a solid contributer on a yankees team that desperately needs some young, cheap talent. a .280 career average with some pop and good periferals (he'll be in NY for a while, after all) would probably be reasonable, although if he decides to take a pitch now and then....
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Postby swingaway » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:14 am

cano= todd walker type player
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