Oh and I can almost guarantee you he doesn't end up in Chicago
amazing that Cubs fans would even want the guy, but then again that is Chicago fans for ya. Fire the guy with the career winning record, and bring in the guy who has never had a winning record.
Besides, I thought Steve Stone was running the team for ya next season ...
As for the Bucs, this is good thing. A great thing actually. They have a lot of young talent coming up within the next couple of seasons, and I would hate to see it get wasted sitting on the bench under Lloyd.
wrveres wrote: Fire the guy with the career winning record, and bring in the guy who has never had a winning record.
I don't care, but wveres, you can't honestly use this as a basis for how good a manager a guy is. It's like the chicken and the egg. Is the guy's record good cuz of his team, or his is team good because of the manager. In my mind, a team is good due to it's coaches - not the guy who calls the shots.
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Ken Macha has been linked to a possible fit for next season with the Pirates. Contract extension talks in Oakland are going nowhere and Macha lives in Pittsburgh. Please, take him.
I know a little off topic, but what do the Pirates need to do to get back to respectable? What kind of minor league system do they have? That team needs both hitting and pitching pretty badly..
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RAmst23 wrote:I know a little off topic, but what do the Pirates need to do to get back to respectable? What kind of minor league system do they have? That team needs both hitting and pitching pretty badly..
Well, we have been stockpiling arms in the draft for several years now. We are finally seeing some of the "benefits" with Duke and Maholm. We also have several other good prospects like Bullington, Gorzellany, and Sean Burnett (who was up in the majors until he got hurt). Yeah, Redman and Fogg are garbage, but these other guys have some promise.
Hitting...that's a different story. We really don't have much past what we just brought up (Doumit, Duffy, McLouth, Eldred). We don't have any good 3B prospects in the entire system. Another possible hitter we have is Ronnie Paulino...but he's a catcher like Doumit. Our first round pick this year, Neil Walker, is ALSO a catcher. It really doesn't make much sense.
So anyway, respectable for us at this point is a .500 season...sad, but true. The pitching has promise, but we still have little to nothing in the way of hitting. At some point, we will have to trade away some of these arms for a bat, but Dave Littlefield does not appear to be a great dealer of players. Trying to get ML ready talent for prospects is tough enough, but with the Pirates it seems impossible. I don't mind trading for hitters, but this crap with the retread old hitters has to stop. We need young hitters; but, in order to get them, the Pirates must be willing to trade some arms.
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Maybe it would help some if they would just let Mesa go, period -- instead of still trying to get him to stay for less $$$. With the kind of budget they have, *any* $ is too much to pay for Mesa, IMHO.
BTW, respectability *is* getting to .500 -- it's not only specific to the Pirates, and generally, only the minority big budget teams are expected to do much better to gain/maintain respectability. Beyond that, you're starting to talk about contending.
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by wrveres » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:59 pm 
