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Postby Havok1517 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:33 pm

Beltran, look at his numbers the last couple of years and his predicted numbers. big bust this year
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Postby HOOTIE » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:06 am

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Lofunzo wrote:Forgot about Beltre. Where are all of his supporters now?? :-D


:-b

I certainly wasn't one of them. I thought he'd flop and look what happened :-b


I'm a Beltre supporter. I was before his great 04 year, and i am after his 05 struggles. The adjustment to AL pitchers, and pressing with the big contract have really hurt. I fully expect 35 hrs-110 rbis next year.

DM, Perez in 04 lead the majors in K/9.
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Postby davidmarver » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:59 am

HOOTIE wrote:
blankman wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:Forgot about Beltre. Where are all of his supporters now?? :-D


:-b

I certainly wasn't one of them. I thought he'd flop and look what happened :-b


I'm a Beltre supporter. I was before his great 04 year, and i am after his 05 struggles. The adjustment to AL pitchers, and pressing with the big contract have really hurt. I fully expect 35 hrs-110 rbis next year.

DM, Perez in 04 lead the majors in K/9.

I know that, I was talking about this season. You can't call him an underachiever this season because he didn't achieve anything at all this year. He was a bust, not an underachiever.
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Postby Lofunzo » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:20 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
blankman wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:Forgot about Beltre. Where are all of his supporters now?? :-D


:-b

I certainly wasn't one of them. I thought he'd flop and look what happened :-b


I'm a Beltre supporter. I was before his great 04 year, and i am after his 05 struggles. The adjustment to AL pitchers, and pressing with the big contract have really hurt. I fully expect 35 hrs-110 rbis next year.

DM, Perez in 04 lead the majors in K/9.


Hootie.......Without trying to hijack this thread, would you make Beltre 1 of my 5 keepers on this team?? I only list the hitters because my pitching stinks. Beckett is my only pitcher of note:

C V. Martínez (Cle - C)
1B D. Lee (ChC - 1B)
2B A. Soriano (Tex - 2B)
3B A. Béltre (Sea - 3B)
SS O. Cabrera (LAA - SS)
OF C. Crawford (TB - OF)
OF H. Matsui (NYY - OF)
OF Mi. Cabrera (Fla - 3B,OF)
Util L. Berkman (Hou - 1B,OF)
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Postby davidmarver » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:25 pm

Lofunzo wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:
blankman wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:Forgot about Beltre. Where are all of his supporters now?? :-D


:-b

I certainly wasn't one of them. I thought he'd flop and look what happened :-b


I'm a Beltre supporter. I was before his great 04 year, and i am after his 05 struggles. The adjustment to AL pitchers, and pressing with the big contract have really hurt. I fully expect 35 hrs-110 rbis next year.

DM, Perez in 04 lead the majors in K/9.


Hootie.......Without trying to hijack this thread, would you make Beltre 1 of my 5 keepers on this team?? I only list the hitters because my pitching stinks. Beckett is my only pitcher of note:

C V. Martínez (Cle - C)
1B D. Lee (ChC - 1B)
2B A. Soriano (Tex - 2B)
3B A. Béltre (Sea - 3B)
SS O. Cabrera (LAA - SS)
OF C. Crawford (TB - OF)
OF H. Matsui (NYY - OF)
OF Mi. Cabrera (Fla - 3B,OF)
Util L. Berkman (Hou - 1B,OF)

If you are keeping Beckett, that leaves four spots for your lineup. Crawford, Cabrera, and Lee are locks to be keepers, so that leaves one spot left. You have arguably the best 2b and C in fantasy baseball and you would only be able to choose one to keep. I don't Beltre fits here and after the year he had this year, I think your owners will be very hesitant to draft him, making him easy for you to re-acquire.
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Postby Lofunzo » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:28 pm

davidmarver wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:
blankman wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:Forgot about Beltre. Where are all of his supporters now?? :-D


:-b

I certainly wasn't one of them. I thought he'd flop and look what happened :-b


I'm a Beltre supporter. I was before his great 04 year, and i am after his 05 struggles. The adjustment to AL pitchers, and pressing with the big contract have really hurt. I fully expect 35 hrs-110 rbis next year.

DM, Perez in 04 lead the majors in K/9.


Hootie.......Without trying to hijack this thread, would you make Beltre 1 of my 5 keepers on this team?? I only list the hitters because my pitching stinks. Beckett is my only pitcher of note:

C V. Martínez (Cle - C)
1B D. Lee (ChC - 1B)
2B A. Soriano (Tex - 2B)
3B A. Béltre (Sea - 3B)
SS O. Cabrera (LAA - SS)
OF C. Crawford (TB - OF)
OF H. Matsui (NYY - OF)
OF Mi. Cabrera (Fla - 3B,OF)
Util L. Berkman (Hou - 1B,OF)

If you are keeping Beckett, that leaves four spots for your lineup. Crawford, Cabrera, and Lee are locks to be keepers, so that leaves one spot left. You have arguably the best 2b and C in fantasy baseball and you would only be able to choose one to keep. I don't Beltre fits here and after the year he had this year, I think your owners will be very hesitant to draft him, making him easy for you to re-acquire.


My thoughts exactly although, for a sec, I thought that you were saying that I should keep Orlando Cabrera. :-o
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:37 pm

Keep Soriano, Lee, Cabrera, Beckett and either Crawford or Matsui. I'd lean towards Crawford. That'll give you a killer set of keepers.
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Postby HOOTIE » Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:50 pm

Lofunzo wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:
blankman wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:
Hootie.......Without trying to hijack this thread, would you make Beltre 1 of my 5 keepers on this team?? I only list the hitters because my pitching stinks. Beckett is my only pitcher of note:

C V. Martínez (Cle - C)
1B D. Lee (ChC - 1B)
2B A. Soriano (Tex - 2B)
3B A. Béltre (Sea - 3B)
SS O. Cabrera (LAA - SS)
OF C. Crawford (TB - OF)
OF H. Matsui (NYY - OF)
OF Mi. Cabrera (Fla - 3B,OF)
Util L. Berkman (Hou - 1B,OF)


Lee/Soriano/Crawford/Cabrera are the 4 locks. The 5th spot is close between VMartinez and Beltre. Beckett imo is only the 3rd option. Martinez was crap for 2 to 3 months. Hard to say what he he's capable of. I won't push my Beltre support. If it was my team, i might lean Beltre. But keeping Martinez for your 5th is solid.
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Postby baseball6791 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:04 pm

CubsFan7724 wrote:Keep Soriano, Lee, Cabrera, Beckett and either Crawford or Matsui. I'd lean towards Crawford. That'll give you a killer set of keepers.


I agree although I'd say definitely keep Crawford over Matsui. I might keep VMart over Beckett though, but it depends on what kind of pitchers you think will be available in your league next year.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:15 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:
blankman wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:
Hootie.......Without trying to hijack this thread, would you make Beltre 1 of my 5 keepers on this team?? I only list the hitters because my pitching stinks. Beckett is my only pitcher of note:

C V. Martínez (Cle - C)
1B D. Lee (ChC - 1B)
2B A. Soriano (Tex - 2B)
3B A. Béltre (Sea - 3B)
SS O. Cabrera (LAA - SS)
OF C. Crawford (TB - OF)
OF H. Matsui (NYY - OF)
OF Mi. Cabrera (Fla - 3B,OF)
Util L. Berkman (Hou - 1B,OF)


Lee/Soriano/Crawford/Cabrera are the 4 locks. The 5th spot is close between VMartinez and Beltre. Beckett imo is only the 3rd option. Martinez was crap for 2 to 3 months. Hard to say what he he's capable of. I won't push my Beltre support. If it was my team, i might lean Beltre. But keeping Martinez for your 5th is solid.

Can't you pick up Beltre at a discount if you really wanted him? I mean, hes not going to be a 5th round pick next year.
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