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Postby jjigglers » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:52 pm

The_Met_Threat wrote:Yes it was my thread and it got eaten because i was asking if he was gonna be good and if anyone has seen him play. 8-o


That wasn't why it was eaten.
Matt Cain - worth a pickup?
The_Met_Threat wrote:Hes the next best prospect to be called up other than the king. Is he worth a gamble? Will he be any good?


As for Matt Cain, his HR/9 is 1.36 in the minors this year, and when coupled with a 4.51 BB/9, I dont think he will be wildly successful this year regardless of his high strikeout totals. For the future though, I've seen him throw and the sky is the limit.

Oh, and to put his HR/9 into perspective, if he were able to keep the same HR/9 in the majors (which I wouldnt expect him to do since he would face more powerful and disciplined hitters) 1.36 would be 13th highest in the majors, and 6th highest in the NL.
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Postby bd3521 » Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:03 pm

Todd Helton will remember his 14-pitch at-bat Monday night
in Matt Cain's major-league debut. Helton fouled off eight
consecutive 3-2 pitches and then flied out. "That kid's
going to be a good pitcher with that kind of stuff," Helton
said of the 20-year-old Cain. "Someday, I'll be saying to my
grandkids, 'I had a 14-pitch at-bat against Matt Cain.'"

Wow. A stud like Helton is ready to put Cain in the Hall of
Fame. Listen to watch the hitters say more than an stats you
read on a website. Cain looks like the real deal and is an
outstanding keeper prospect. Consider him down the stretch
for help in your Fantasy rotation, but the lowly Giants will
struggle to make him a consistent winner.
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Postby hybrid » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:03 pm

Maybe it's just me, but I didn't think it was that good of a start. Not really bad, but he faced a AAA team except for 2 batters and didn't have control of any pitches. He couldn't throw his best pitch (curveball) for strikes and really didn't even attempt to throw it.

He is still a great prospect no doubt, but I thought his outing was only decent to be honest.
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Postby Vetterstrom » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:07 pm

hybrid wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I didn't think it was that good of a start. Not really bad, but he faced a AAA team except for 2 batters and didn't have control of any pitches. He couldn't throw his best pitch (curveball) for strikes and really didn't even attempt to throw it.

He is still a great prospect no doubt, but I thought his outing was only decent to be honest.


Yeah, I agree it was unspectacular but it doesn't take anything away from his stuff.
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Postby bd3521 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:23 am

2H
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CG
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Postby eftda » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:26 am

bd3521 wrote:2H
8K

CG


He just saved my playoff week. Its now a 5-5 tie in my H2H. Thank you Cain. ;-D
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Postby Pedantic » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:55 am

Prior to this season, his minor league career HR/9 was 0.64. And actually, the BB/9 is less worrisome than you would think. I'd say there's a very good chance that he turns out to be a perennial Cy Young contender, though it may take a little while for him to manifest those qualities.
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Postby davidmarver » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:14 am

eftda wrote:
bd3521 wrote:2H
8K

CG


He just saved my playoff week. Its now a 5-5 tie in my H2H. Thank you Cain. ;-D

Cain dominated. Great start in a much-needed playoff game. :-)
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Postby baseball6791 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:17 pm

bd3521 wrote:2H
8K

CG


For all of you who didn't get a chance to see it, it was really a spectacular start. He showed exactly why every team in the major leagues wanted that kid. We already knew that his stuff was amazing but this is what he can do when he harnesses his control. He was very composed on the mound, challenged hitters, didn't shy away. His fastball was just electric and his curve and change were working great. A great job by the youngster ;-D
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Postby dorje3 » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:18 pm

Could anyone post Cain's pitching repetoire? I know his best pitches are a 94-95 mph fastball followed by a hard curve and an average changeup? I thought I read somewhere that his off-speed pitches were plus (a hard breaking ball, I think).
If anyone has any insight into exactly what he mixes in, and what are his best pitched, please post...
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